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Post by jeffsiemon on Feb 23, 2024 17:06:57 GMT -6
“If they wanted to trade up to get one of the top guys, you’re talking about the 11th pick, a 1st round pick in 2025 and 2026. That would be the cost for the Minnesota #Vikings.”
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Post by frantheman10 on Feb 23, 2024 17:53:58 GMT -6
No thanks. I’ll take McCarthy at 11. That kid looks like a winner. He just turned 21. He’s still growing and has the competitive fire I want in our next QB.
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Post by purplevein on Feb 23, 2024 17:59:39 GMT -6
No thanks. I’ll take McCarthy at 11. That kid looks like a winner. He just turned 21. He’s still growing and has the competitive fire I want in our next QB. With a good combine next week, McCarthy might be picked before 11.
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Post by tavike on Feb 23, 2024 19:47:25 GMT -6
No thanks. I’ll take McCarthy at 11. That kid looks like a winner. He just turned 21. He’s still growing and has the competitive fire I want in our next QB. Hate to break it to you, but McCarthy doesn't get to the vikes at 11 unless the Falcons sign Cousins, and in that case the Raiders and the Broncos will try to trade up in front of the Vikes to get him. I'm not saying this because of my opinion on McCarthy's ability, I'm saying this because of the steam he's gaining.
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Post by purplevein on Feb 23, 2024 20:08:16 GMT -6
No thanks. I’ll take McCarthy at 11. That kid looks like a winner. He just turned 21. He’s still growing and has the competitive fire I want in our next QB. Hate to break it to you, but McCarthy doesn't get to the vikes at 11 unless the Falcons sign Cousins, and in that case the Raiders and the Broncos will try to trade up in front of the Vikes to get him. I'm not saying this because of my opinion on McCarthy's ability, I'm saying this because of the steam he's gaining.
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Post by JR44 on Feb 23, 2024 20:29:51 GMT -6
Hate to break it to you, but McCarthy doesn't get to the vikes at 11 unless the Falcons sign Cousins, and in that case the Raiders and the Broncos will try to trade up in front of the Vikes to get him. I'm not saying this because of my opinion on McCarthy's ability, I'm saying this because of the steam he's gaining. View AttachmentPeople are dreaming they are looking at JJM going that high, he is not a top 10 or even a top 20 QB, would much rather have Nix.
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Post by avguy on Feb 23, 2024 22:14:01 GMT -6
How Frustrating this current NFL has become.....an Over Value of the QB position, but it has to be that way!!
Because of this, the Draft will create several reaches, every season now. McCarthy, Nix, Pennix, and even Maye will be taken far ahead of many better players. I can't stand the #11 spot paired with the '24 QB group; and even moving up to let's say #3.
Each spot feels QB reach to me for the next Vikings' QB. I'm no rah rah keep Cousins guy, but I have little faith that the best and most physical Defense will be built up with this current regime if he is kept longer and it feels like the one and done in the Playoffs forever at best!
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Post by drhoades on Feb 23, 2024 22:21:02 GMT -6
Wahhh wahhh wahh Blah blah blah Trade up for a wing and a prayer. When does free agency start? God I hate this draft crap
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Post by redbird87 on Feb 23, 2024 23:25:12 GMT -6
Wahhh wahhh wahh Blah blah blah Trade up for a wing and a prayer. When does free agency start? God I hate this draft crap There is nothing wrong with the draft… ultimately it is where all great players come from. The problem comes from over drafting due to need and expectations that every 1st, 2nd and 3rd Rounder is a sure thing that is going to fix every problem and be so much better than someone we already have. Most draft picks wind up being mostly average to below average players. As it pertains to QB specifically….if we were sitting at 3 and you wanted to take a swing at a QB… OK. I’d still rather take BPA but I’m fine with taking a shot at a franchise QB when the cost is 1 pick (albeit a high one). But to give up multiple 1st Rd pics and likely a 2nd to move up to take a swing at a guy that’s not only a 90% fail rate but not even considered one of the top 2 QB’s in the class…. Is just Stupid. Even if we’d have traded Hunter last year like we should have to Jax and had the 11 and 17th… I still wouldn’t give up multiple 1st to move up to 3 to go draft a QB this year….especially when the guy you are likely to draft isn’t even a great fit for our offense. I know I’m on record as being a Kirk fan, but I think that ship has sailed and I just don’t see how bringing him back is going to work with the dead cap he’s sitting on. We should have drafted a QB last year when Levis was available. He may not turn out to be the Fr QB you seek, but at least you’d have a guy in house who had a year to learn and who you have an idea of what you have. This is looking more and more like Ponder 2.0! We are going to draft a QB come hell or high water because we have to. I just hope if we do it’s at 11or better yet we trade back and take one between 12 and 32 and get another 2nd ir 3rd in the process. I’m not advocating another 11-32 trade…. But if we are going to go QB I’d be fine with that because I don’t think any of the QB’s after Maye are 1st Rd Talents…..at least not in zkOC’s offense.
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Post by tavike on Feb 23, 2024 23:33:19 GMT -6
People are dreaming they are looking at JJM going that high, he is not a top 10 or even a top 20 QB, would much rather have Nix. Wait and see, it's gonna shock you.
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Post by tavike on Feb 23, 2024 23:40:32 GMT -6
Wahhh wahhh wahh Blah blah blah Trade up for a wing and a prayer. When does free agency start? God I hate this draft crap There is nothing wrong with the draft… ultimately it is where all great players come from. The problem comes from over drafting due to need and expectations that every 1st, 2nd and 3rd Rounder is a sure thing that is going to fix every problem and be so much better than someone we already have. Most draft picks wind up being mostly average to below average players. As it pertains to QB specifically….if we were sitting at 3 and you wanted to take a swing at a QB… OK. I’d still rather take BPA but I’m fine with taking a shot at a franchise QB when the cost is 1 pick (albeit a high one). But to give up multiple 1st Rd pics and likely a 2nd to move up to take a swing at a guy that’s not only a 90% fail rate but not even considered one of the top 2 QB’s in the class…. Is just Stupid. Even if we’d have traded Hunter last year like we should have to Jax and had the 11 and 17th… I still wouldn’t give up multiple 1st to move up to 3 to go draft a QB this year….especially when the guy you are likely to draft isn’t even a great fit for our offense. I know I’m on record as being a Kirk fan, but I think that ship has sailed and I just don’t see how bringing him back is going to work with the dead cap he’s sitting on. We should have drafted a QB last year when Levis was available. He may not turn out to be the Fr QB you seek, but at least you’d have a guy in house who had a year to learn and who you have an idea of what you have. This is looking more and more like Ponder 2.0! We are going to draft a QB come hell or high water because we have to. I just hope if we do it’s at 11or better yet we trade back and take one between 12 and 32 and get another 2nd ir 3rd in the process. I’m not advocating another 11-32 trade…. But if we are going to go QB I’d be fine with that because I don’t think any of the QB’s after Maye are 1st Rd Talents…..at least not in zkOC’s offense. The Ponder pick has traumatized many a Viking fan. We all need to get over it. At this point, I'm 62, watched the Vikes since I was 7 and I'm willing to see them do something they have never done before and see what happens.
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Post by drhoades on Feb 24, 2024 1:54:42 GMT -6
Wahhh wahhh wahh Blah blah blah Trade up for a wing and a prayer. When does free agency start? God I hate this draft crap There is nothing wrong with the draft… ultimately it is where all great players come from. The problem comes from over drafting due to need and expectations that every 1st, 2nd and 3rd Rounder is a sure thing that is going to fix every problem and be so much better than someone we already have. Most draft picks wind up being mostly average to below average players. As it pertains to QB specifically….if we were sitting at 3 and you wanted to take a swing at a QB… OK. I’d still rather take BPA but I’m fine with taking a shot at a franchise QB when the cost is 1 pick (albeit a high one). But to give up multiple 1st Rd pics and likely a 2nd to move up to take a swing at a guy that’s not only a 90% fail rate but not even considered one of the top 2 QB’s in the class…. Is just Stupid. Even if we’d have traded Hunter last year like we should have to Jax and had the 11 and 17th… I still wouldn’t give up multiple 1st to move up to 3 to go draft a QB this year….especially when the guy you are likely to draft isn’t even a great fit for our offense. I know I’m on record as being a Kirk fan, but I think that ship has sailed and I just don’t see how bringing him back is going to work with the dead cap he’s sitting on. We should have drafted a QB last year when Levis was available. He may not turn out to be the Fr QB you seek, but at least you’d have a guy in house who had a year to learn and who you have an idea of what you have. This is looking more and more like Ponder 2.0! We are going to draft a QB come hell or high water because we have to. I just hope if we do it’s at 11or better yet we trade back and take one between 12 and 32 and get another 2nd ir 3rd in the process. I’m not advocating another 11-32 trade…. But if we are going to go QB I’d be fine with that because I don’t think any of the QB’s after Maye are 1st Rd Talents…..at least not in zkOC’s offense. Ok I get everything you are saying, but given all the data you have provided, why would you give up on KC? You would resign Danielle, above all else, and draft linemen, then roll with Kirk. Take a flyer on a QB in round 3 giving yourself great odds of picking a franchise Quarterback. Almost as good of odds as if you did something stupid like trading players and picks to get one of the “can’t miss” QBs. 🤣
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Post by wiscovike on Feb 24, 2024 10:58:56 GMT -6
Rosters of SF, Det in the NFC championship show that you don’t need elite QB. Don’t trade up.
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Post by purpletrouble on Feb 24, 2024 12:46:52 GMT -6
Rosters of SF, Det in the NFC championship show that you don’t need elite QB. Don’t trade up. The Superbowl Champs showed that you win with an elite QB.
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Post by purplevein on Feb 24, 2024 12:58:31 GMT -6
The Vikings did draft their quarterback of the future with a third round pick in 2021, but he didn’t pan out. Attachment Deleted
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