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Post by taz24 on Mar 20, 2024 14:40:19 GMT -6
We wonโt be able to sign any free agents due to salary cap.
LMAO!!!!!!!!!!!!!!๐คฃ
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Post by mountvike on Mar 20, 2024 14:42:55 GMT -6
Lol....I do recall seeing that proclaimed.
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Post by tavike on Mar 20, 2024 16:39:56 GMT -6
We wonโt be able to sign any free agents due to salary cap. LMAO!!!!!!!!!!!!!!๐คฃ They're using up some of that gigantic amount of cap they have next year. Brzezinski is a genius
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Post by taz24 on Mar 20, 2024 18:11:02 GMT -6
The cap workarounds. The cap is real but it is not 'hard'. I am glad they have it so it doesn't turn into MLB with haves and have nots but so much manuevering can and will be done.
Every team has a Brezinski and every team knows how to do it when they want.
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Post by Vikeroo on Mar 20, 2024 18:26:49 GMT -6
We wonโt be able to sign any free agents due to salary cap. LMAO!!!!!!!!!!!!!!๐คฃ They're using up some of that gigantic amount of cap they have next year. Brzezinski is a genius Some of us wanted them to stop robbing Peter to pay Paul, but at least it is not that egregious this time around. I thought they were going to let Greenard hit for closer to 10M this year, but I get that one to an extent. Van Ginkel and Jones contracts are kind of what I was expecting.
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Post by ejv711 on Mar 20, 2024 20:34:50 GMT -6
They're using up some of that gigantic amount of cap they have next year. Brzezinski is a genius Some of us wanted them to stop robbing Peter to pay Paul, but at least it is not that egregious this time around. I thought they were going to let Greenard hit for closer to 10M this year, but I get that one to an extent. Van Ginkel and Jones contracts are kind of what I was expecting. Greenard is about where the market is at for an established, yet big potential DE/OLB. He's in a good system that just picked up a LOT of good parts. Hunter was absolutely lights out last year and I hate to see him go. It was just a part of the plan I assume to get younger and yet fill the gaps with pretty good guys in FA really. There's a few you hope needed a change of scenery. I think Greenard and VanGinkel both kill it this year and honestly I think both the Tillery and now Ward pickups will be big too. Would be nice to be able to get a Jerzahn Newton or Byron Murphy to fill that rush DT spot, but I think we have enough guys to create pressure now. Lots of D potential. Please lawd let us hit on the QB pick this year!!
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Post by redbird87 on Mar 21, 2024 10:34:29 GMT -6
First it appears Kwesi did have a plan as it pertained to Hunter and Cousins as we entered FA and Iโm glad to see him be more definitive with his decisions. As another poster notedโฆ. Heโs robbed Peter to pay Paul, but he kind of had to based on decisions he made in prior years. Iโm not generally a big fan of that unless you are using it to secure high quality long term assets, but the reality is he left himself too many holes to fill with too much dead cap so he really had no choice. As far as a plan, having one is great, having a good one is better. A lot of the decisions we are making this offseason are really a byproduct of not previously having a well thought out planโฆ.or at least not a good one.
Kwesiโs poor drafts, poor prioritization and poor roster decisions have left the cupboard bare without a lot of ammunition to refill it. The cost to move up for a QB is going to be higher than it should be because every team knows we are desperate. Not trading Hunter last year hopefully nets us a 3rd in 25 instead of a 1st in 24. That mistake cost us all the draft capital we gave up to get a 2nd 1st. But he did do a good job of getting good value in getting that 2nd 1st so Iโll give him props for that. Hanging on to guys like Theilen, Kendricks, Smith, Cook a year too long cost us draft pics and cap space and have greatly slowed our rebuild.
People are losing there shit because weโve been so active in FA, but the reality is he had no choice. We let 7 Starters walk with only 2 (RB/Edge) having any kind of real backup whatsoever under contract entering the offseason. So we HAD no choice but to sign a lot of people. But the reality is Greenard is the closest thing weโve signed to an above average talent that isnโt on the decline, comes with a ton of injury risk or simply is unproven.
I think given the magnitude of talent that exited the team, I think he targeted mid tier players early that โCouldโ have more upside if all the cards align. And given the current state of the teamโฆ. I donโt totally disagree with that approach. My only criticism is he overpaid several of these guys to make sure he got them and if they donโt pan out (like Davenport) thatโs going to hurt.
Iโm still highly critical of Kwesiโs moves up to this off-season and frankly think theyโve been awful, but for the first time I at least see him deploying a plan and understand why heโs doing what heโs doing. But I also see some desperation in his moves as well and wonder if heโs a bit in the hot seat.
Anywayโฆ Iโm encouraged a bit and I hope he carries that over to the draft, but there are still some things I really question and areas I still think prioritization is offโฆ. But againโฆ. He left so many holes itโs hard to criticize most of the FA moves so far.
All that said, I really like our coaching staff and they may be able to get a lot out of a little and Iโm hoping for the best, but we probably have the weakest overall roster in the North right now. Weโll see how the draft goes, but as of today I donโt see us any better than 500. And thatโs okโฆ I think every decision we make right now should be with 25/26 in mind which is why Iโm not thrilled we are stealing future cap on players that may not be here if health doesnโt hold up. Iโm hoping Kwesi continues to improve and has us back to competing soon!
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Post by smoot4208 on Mar 21, 2024 11:52:05 GMT -6
Kwesiโs poor drafts, poor prioritization and poor roster decisions have left the cupboard bare without a lot of ammunition to refill it. The cost to move up for a QB is going to be higher than it should be because every team knows we are desperate. Not trading Hunter last year hopefully nets us a 3rd in 25 instead of a 1st in 24. That mistake cost us all the draft capital we gave up to get a 2nd 1st. But he did do a This right here. At best we get a end of round 3 pick with the comp. We likely could've shopped Hunter last off season for a 3rd round pick or higher for sure. As far as QB goes, every team knows were aiming to take a QB in the first round too (that's not KAM's fault) so we're going to get hosed if we have to move up from 11 to 5-7 for our guy. As far as injury concerns go, Im tired of signing guys that have a high chance of injury. Davenport may have gotten paid more than $1M per quarter played this past season
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Post by redbird87 on Mar 21, 2024 12:26:23 GMT -6
I have seen multiple outlets state we could have easily gotten a 1st for Hunter at the deadlineโฆa 2nd at worst.
As for the QB issueโฆI think Kwesi sometimes overestimates what he thinks he brings to the bargaining table. He should have known after talks broke down last year with Kirk that he was either going to have to pay up or cut tiesโฆ.and if youโre going to cut tiesโฆ. You had to pick Leviโs when he fell to us. With the exception of maybe Ridder and DJonesโฆevery team looking for a QB was a high prob to be looking for a QB now a year ago. You had to know the market for Kirk would be strong. Hellโฆ.it was strong and he was coming off injury. Even if Levis maybe wasnโt as far along as hoped after you draft himโฆ.you donโt appear desperate to the point of being fleeced and if he did pan out you didnโt trade the farm to take him. But you have to have a viable and at least semi believable backup plan when you let a good Vet QB go unless you expect to be drafting high which he had to know was a low probability. you As a GMโฆ. Itโs the ONE thing you absolutely canโt do is go into a draft with no viable QB option and needing to trade up to get one. Every team knows they have you by the balls!!
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Post by frantheman10 on Mar 21, 2024 12:38:18 GMT -6
We've signed a lot of guys to one-year deals. Darnold, Jones, Griffin, a few others. Were any of those done with void years like Davenport? Because if they're gone next year, it builds up dead cap again.
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Post by RF54 on Mar 21, 2024 13:19:57 GMT -6
We wonโt be able to sign any free agents due to salary cap. LMAO!!!!!!!!!!!!!!๐คฃ my favorite part was he was frozen with indicision...
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Post by taz24 on Mar 21, 2024 13:23:59 GMT -6
So basically everyone agrees they have a plan??? Good stuff.
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Post by marshalltohof on Mar 21, 2024 13:44:11 GMT -6
I was thinking letting Cousins go freed up cap space. But they restructured him last year to get his cap number down to $20M for '23.
This year, he left them with $28.5 in dead money so actually costs more against the cap than last year!
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Post by mountvike on Mar 21, 2024 14:00:43 GMT -6
I was thinking letting Cousins go freed up cap space. But they restructured him last year to get his cap number down to $20M for '23. This year, he left them with $28.5 in dead money so actually costs more against the cap than last year! That was part of the "kicking the can" that irritated people. It's also why we really need to get this rookie QB thing right.
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Post by ocvike on Mar 21, 2024 14:13:19 GMT -6
I have seen multiple outlets state we could have easily gotten a 1st for Hunter at the deadlineโฆa 2nd at worst. As for the QB issueโฆI think Kwesi sometimes overestimates what he thinks he brings to the bargaining table. He should have known after talks broke down last year with Kirk that he was either going to have to pay up or cut tiesโฆ.and if youโre going to cut tiesโฆ. You had to pick Leviโs when he fell to us. With the exception of maybe Ridder and DJonesโฆevery team looking for a QB was a high prob to be looking for a QB now a year ago. You had to know the market for Kirk would be strong. Hellโฆ.it was strong and he was coming off injury. Even if Levis maybe wasnโt as far along as hoped after you draft himโฆ.you donโt appear desperate to the point of being fleeced and if he did pan out you didnโt trade the farm to take him. But you have to have a viable and at least semi believable backup plan when you let a good Vet QB go unless you expect to be drafting high which he had to know was a low probability. you As a GMโฆ. Itโs the ONE thing you absolutely canโt do is go into a draft with no viable QB option and needing to trade up to get one. Every team knows they have you by the balls!! This talk of being fleeced by other teams because we are desperate is so overblown. Teams will make trades if it benefits them. Teams that want to trade back (Arizona? Chargers?) will trade back for the best deal. They won't turn the Vikings down if the Vikings have a better offer than any other team, unless they don't think it benefits them.
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