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Post by vikes79 on Mar 19, 2024 8:57:21 GMT -6
I'm just glad the shit show followed Kirk to Atlanta. A bit petty, yes. But so is Kirk's greed. Uhhh who allowed it to happen? Shit show left…are you really sure about that? Becareful what you wish for…I remain optimistic but, I’m not convinced KAM / KOC really have the full support of ownership to clean house… Kirk leaving was clearly a result of poor management of KAM…the path was set a year ago. What happens if the team goes 2-15 next year? Division champs to the cellar in 3 years doesn’t sound like a winning formula….and is an extremely real possibility now. |
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Post by soonerviking55 on Mar 19, 2024 9:27:53 GMT -6
My guess is at best the Falcons lose a middle round pick and maybe a pick swap. I think the Vikings have to file a formal complaint too.
Something will happen because of how careless Kirk was with his comments & how much The Fiction Section Of The Library will publicly complain to keep this in the light.
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Post by burntpackerdbs84 on Mar 19, 2024 10:28:39 GMT -6
My guess is at best the Falcons lose a middle round pick and maybe a pick swap. I think the Vikings have to file a formal complaint too. Something will happen because of how careless Kirk was with his comments & how much The Fiction Section Of The Library will publicly complain to keep this in the light. Or the Vikings didn't care because they never were gonna bring him back regardless. Have a decent enough offer out there, make it look they want him back at their price, but in the end they never wanted him back. |
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Post by soonerviking55 on Mar 19, 2024 10:34:19 GMT -6
My guess is at best the Falcons lose a middle round pick and maybe a pick swap. I think the Vikings have to file a formal complaint too. Something will happen because of how careless Kirk was with his comments & how much The Fiction Section Of The Library will publicly complain to keep this in the light. Or the Vikings didn't care because they never were gonna bring him back regardless. Have a decent enough offer out there, make it look they want him back at their price, but in the end they never wanted him back. I mean if there's a chance to get yourself a draft pick then it'd be smart if the Vikings did care or at least pretend like the do in order to get additional compensation if possible. |
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Post by mountvike on Mar 19, 2024 10:45:33 GMT -6
I'm just glad the shit show followed Kirk to Atlanta. A bit petty, yes. But so is Kirk's greed. Uhhh who allowed it to happen? Shit show left…are you really sure about that? Becareful what you wish for…I remain optimistic but, I’m not convinced KAM / KOC really have the full support of ownership to clean house… Kirk leaving was clearly a result of poor management of KAM…the path was set a year ago. What happens if the team goes 2-15 next year? Division champs to the cellar in 3 years doesn’t sound like a winning formula….and is an extremely real possibility now. I'm happy that the shit show surrounding KC has left with him. It's now the Falcons problem was the central point. Our team's trajectory is another subject worthy of debate for sure. For now I will do what I do every year. Be optimistic. Bitching before the draft and season even starts sounds like a miserable way to live but that's me. |
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Post by vr46 on Mar 19, 2024 10:48:21 GMT -6
My guess is at best the Falcons lose a middle round pick and maybe a pick swap. I think the Vikings have to file a formal complaint too. Something will happen because of how careless Kirk was with his comments & how much The Fiction Section Of The Library will publicly complain to keep this in the light. What word is the forum software changing to "the fiction section of the library"? |
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Post by soonerviking55 on Mar 19, 2024 10:53:59 GMT -6
My guess is at best the Falcons lose a middle round pick and maybe a pick swap. I think the Vikings have to file a formal complaint too. Something will happen because of how careless Kirk was with his comments & how much The Fiction Section Of The Library will publicly complain to keep this in the light. What word is the forum software changing to "the fiction section of the library"? I didn't even realize it did that....the word I used was the last name of the Vikings fan that works for NBC and runs Pro Football Talk. His first name is Mike and his last name rhymes with Oreo. |
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Post by vikes79 on Mar 19, 2024 17:27:06 GMT -6
My guess is at best the Falcons lose a middle round pick and maybe a pick swap. I think the Vikings have to file a formal complaint too. Something will happen because of how careless Kirk was with his comments & how much The Fiction Section Of The Library will publicly complain to keep this in the light. Or the Vikings didn't care because they never were gonna bring him back regardless. Have a decent enough offer out there, make it look they want him back at their price, but in the end they never wanted him back. I doubt we will ever really know the real answer of who wanted who ect. When’s the last time you heard a company, team, politician or person openly admit in public that they screwed the pooch and the ending results weren’t the goal? What you hear is the rah, rah, positive “it was our plan always” line of PR BS from both sides. All it does is feed those whom made their decisions for or against said topic or person and leaves zero opening for honest debate in reality. |
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Post by tavike on Mar 19, 2024 20:29:58 GMT -6
Or the Vikings didn't care because they never were gonna bring him back regardless. Have a decent enough offer out there, make it look they want him back at their price, but in the end they never wanted him back. I doubt we will ever really know the real answer of who wanted who ect. When’s the last time you heard a company, team, politician or person openly admit in public that they screwed the pooch and the ending results weren’t the goal? What you hear is the rah, rah, positive “it was our plan always” line of PR BS from both sides. All it does is feed those whom made their decisions for or against said topic or person and leaves zero opening for honest debate in reality. Are you saying losing Cousins was due to a screw up by Kam? I don't see that. I think it was more due to a major screw up by the Falcons organization giving a 36 year old QB coming off an Achilles rupture a 3 year contract with 100 million guaranteed. A QB, mind you, that has one playoff win in his entire career. |
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Post by mountvike on Mar 20, 2024 7:39:26 GMT -6
I doubt we will ever really know the real answer of who wanted who ect. When’s the last time you heard a company, team, politician or person openly admit in public that they screwed the pooch and the ending results weren’t the goal? What you hear is the rah, rah, positive “it was our plan always” line of PR BS from both sides. All it does is feed those whom made their decisions for or against said topic or person and leaves zero opening for honest debate in reality. Are you saying losing Cousins was due to a screw up by Kam? I don't see that. I think it was more due to a major screw up by the Falcons organization giving a 36 year old QB coming off an Achilles rupture a 3 year contract with 100 million guaranteed. A QB, mind you, that has one playoff win in his entire career. In my humble opinion KC wasn't coming back for anything other then the love of money. Apparently $390m in earnings wasn't going to cut it, Kirk had to have $420m to make ends meet. I've always said that I don't begrudge someone what they can earn. In that same breath I will also state that there are people who value money more than others. Brady took team friendly deals for a number of years because he valued his playing legacy. In the end he still ended up with lots of $ and a legacy on the field. Something Cousins will never have. Frankly I hope Atlanta suck ass while KC keeps himself satisfied with his money. |
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Post by mjollnir on Mar 20, 2024 7:48:26 GMT -6
Are you saying losing Cousins was due to a screw up by Kam? I don't see that. I think it was more due to a major screw up by the Falcons organization giving a 36 year old QB coming off an Achilles rupture a 3 year contract with 100 million guaranteed. A QB, mind you, that has one playoff win in his entire career. In my humble opinion KC wasn't coming back for anything other then the love of money. Apparently $390m in earnings wasn't going to cut it, Kirk had to have $420m to make ends meet. I've always said that I don't begrudge someone what they can earn. In that same breath I will also state that there are people who value money more than others. Brady took team friendly deals for a number of years because he valued his playing legacy. In the end he still ended up with lots of $ and a legacy on the field. Something Cousins will never have. Frankly I hope Atlanta suck ass while KC keeps himself satisfied with his money. Would you leave 30 million on the table? Would you do it on a gamble that the money you gave them in relief would be used properly to get the right guys? It was easy for Brady he stepped into a good situation and facilitated it staying that way, plus he had a fall back and once the wins came the endorsements also came. That model does not work beyond the rookie 4 year mark anymore. The closest we could have had was Purdy winning it last year and a couple more before his contract is up. |
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Post by vr46 on Mar 20, 2024 7:54:14 GMT -6
Are you saying losing Cousins was due to a screw up by Kam? I don't see that. I think it was more due to a major screw up by the Falcons organization giving a 36 year old QB coming off an Achilles rupture a 3 year contract with 100 million guaranteed. A QB, mind you, that has one playoff win in his entire career. In my humble opinion KC wasn't coming back for anything other then the love of money. Apparently $390m in earnings wasn't going to cut it, Kirk had to have $420m to make ends meet. I've always said that I don't begrudge someone what they can earn. In that same breath I will also state that there are people who value money more than others. Brady took team friendly deals for a number of years because he valued his playing legacy. In the end he still ended up with lots of $ and a legacy on the field. Something Cousins will never have. Frankly I hope Atlanta suck ass while KC keeps himself satisfied with his money. "I've always said that I don't begrudge someone what they can earn." The entirety of your post suggests otherwise. In fact all of your posts on the subject do nothing but bash KC for taking more money than you think he needs and/or is worth. |
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Post by mountvike on Mar 20, 2024 7:58:07 GMT -6
In my humble opinion KC wasn't coming back for anything other then the love of money. Apparently $390m in earnings wasn't going to cut it, Kirk had to have $420m to make ends meet. I've always said that I don't begrudge someone what they can earn. In that same breath I will also state that there are people who value money more than others. Brady took team friendly deals for a number of years because he valued his playing legacy. In the end he still ended up with lots of $ and a legacy on the field. Something Cousins will never have. Frankly I hope Atlanta suck ass while KC keeps himself satisfied with his money. Would you leave 30 million on the table? Would you do it on a gamble that the money you gave them in relief would be used properly to get the right guys? It was easy for Brady he stepped into a good situation and facilitated it staying that way, plus he had a fall back and once the wins came the endorsements also came. That model does not work beyond the rookie 4 year mark anymore. The closest we could have had was Purdy winning it last year and a couple more before his contract is up. It's just opinions bro. If I had made the kind of money KC made before the Atlanta contract you're damn right I'd be trying to win a Lombardi trophy, but that's me. He had already made well over $200m before departuring the Vikes. If you want to defend KC you have that right. I choose not to. For the record Brady took team friendly deals AFTER he'd already won a Lombardi because he valued his playing legacy. I'll ask you a question. Was KC a good value for our team given the money we spent or did he maximize HIS value. I'd say KC Was the winner and our beloved team was not. |
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Post by mountvike on Mar 20, 2024 8:11:05 GMT -6
In my humble opinion KC wasn't coming back for anything other then the love of money. Apparently $390m in earnings wasn't going to cut it, Kirk had to have $420m to make ends meet. I've always said that I don't begrudge someone what they can earn. In that same breath I will also state that there are people who value money more than others. Brady took team friendly deals for a number of years because he valued his playing legacy. In the end he still ended up with lots of $ and a legacy on the field. Something Cousins will never have. Frankly I hope Atlanta suck ass while KC keeps himself satisfied with his money. "I've always said that I don't begrudge someone what they can earn." The entirety of your post suggests otherwise. In fact all of your posts on the subject do nothing but bash KC for taking more money than you think he needs and/or is worth. I was emphasizing his greed my shallow minded one. I've read through your posts. Your entire game is granular nitpicking. You're a clown pall. Back on mute. |
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Post by vr46 on Mar 20, 2024 10:24:22 GMT -6
"I've always said that I don't begrudge someone what they can earn." The entirety of your post suggests otherwise. In fact all of your posts on the subject do nothing but bash KC for taking more money than you think he needs and/or is worth. I was emphasizing his greed my shallow minded one. I've read through your posts. Your entire game is granular nitpicking. You're a clown pall. Back on mute. Weak attempt at denial? Check Ad Hom attack of other poster? Check Declaration that other poster will be put on ignore? Check Looks like you got all the bases covered. |
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