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Post by sleepy on Oct 8, 2023 19:01:52 GMT -6
Cousin is far from the reason the Vikings lost this game. When he is gone you will all realize how good he was. yep. Zero rings like Moon, McMahon, George, Frerotte, Cunningham, Favre, Johnson, Bradford….all the same. Zero rings tarkenton
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Post by frantheman10 on Oct 8, 2023 19:04:00 GMT -6
yep. Zero rings like Moon, McMahon, George, Frerotte, Cunningham, Favre, Johnson, Bradford….all the same. Zero rings tarkenton I’m pretty sure that McMahon Brad Johnson and Favee won SBs.
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Post by gokings on Oct 8, 2023 19:11:59 GMT -6
Cousins is getting time in comparison to other QBs. He forces too many throws and holds the ball too long. He’s also gotten worse at picking up blitzes.
I can appreciate the cousins crusaders but if it’s not cousins, then I guess O’Connell has to go right? But for some reason he’s not the problem either…..
The defense did the the best they could. This offense just doesn’t execute consistently and it’s inexcusable when they have this much talent. I guess the crowd noise was too much again…
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Post by purplevein on Oct 8, 2023 19:22:18 GMT -6
Having top level skill players on offense can be neutralized if the team has the worst interior offensive line (LG-C-RG) in the league. That’s what needs to be fixed on offense. A shame because Bradbury was a first round draft pick while Cleveland and Ingram were second round picks who aren’t panning out.
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Post by JR44 on Oct 8, 2023 19:30:03 GMT -6
Can't compare the two on any level, Cousins has been everything and more that you can ask for, he has left it all on the field, has taken a beating and keep getting right back up, he has not been perfect, but I will take that kind of effort and desire to do whatever it takes to win.
TJ on the other hand is the complete opposite, absolutely no kind of fire or effort on the field, just going through the motions, if the ball is thrown right to him he might make the catch and then go down immediately, if the ball is not absolutely perfect, forget him actually trying to make a play. I am not sure if I have ever seen a Viking play with less effort, Mundt is 10x less talented, but plays with 10x more effort and would rather have him on the field. Just a complete waste of talent. Campbell and the Lions are really enjoying this.
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Post by vikes79 on Oct 8, 2023 19:32:22 GMT -6
Can't compare the two on any level, Cousins has been everything and more that you can ask for, he has left it all on the field, has taken a beating and keep getting right back up, he has not been perfect, but I will take that kind of effort and desire to do whatever it takes to win. TJ on the other hand is the complete opposite, absolutely no kind of fire or effort on the field, just going through the motions, if the ball is thrown right to him he might make the catch and then go down immediately, if the ball is not absolutely perfect, forget him actually trying to make a play. I am not sure if I have ever seen a Viking play with less effort, Mundt is 10x less talented, but plays with 10x more effort and would rather have him on the field. Just a complete waste of talent. Campbell and the Lions are really enjoying this. This! Add in the absence of the last 2 years of draft picks besides Addison and you get what you see.
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Post by RF54 on Oct 8, 2023 19:39:42 GMT -6
Fran, Dan Marino, Dan Fouts, Jim Kelly, blah blah blah... some of the greatest QBs. None could do it by themselves. When Kirk is gone people will realize how well he played and all the holes he covered up. Just to be clear, I like Kirk but do you want the Vikings to resign a 36 yr old Kirk for another 2-3 years at $40mm per? don't know, not sure what the plan is I am just tired of all the vitriol for Kirk when he is far better than what the Vikings other options were. Someone will sign Kirk this offseason for over $40M. Without Kirk the Vikings are in for some bad years, and I wonder what JJ will do w/o a quality QB.
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Post by shawn3458 on Oct 8, 2023 19:44:20 GMT -6
Can't compare the two on any level, Cousins has been everything and more that you can ask for, he has left it all on the field, has taken a beating and keep getting right back up, he has not been perfect, but I will take that kind of effort and desire to do whatever it takes to win. TJ on the other hand is the complete opposite, absolutely no kind of fire or effort on the field, just going through the motions, if the ball is thrown right to him he might make the catch and then go down immediately, if the ball is not absolutely perfect, forget him actually trying to make a play. I am not sure if I have ever seen a Viking play with less effort, Mundt is 10x less talented, but plays with 10x more effort and would rather have him on the field. Just a complete waste of talent. Campbell and the Lions are really enjoying this. This! Add in the absence of the last 2 years of draft picks besides Addison and you get what you see. KAM is the problem. 2 years and Addison is possibly the only above replacement level player he has added to this roster without massively overpaying. (Davenport and Hock) How can you truly evaluate anyone on this staff with a GM that adds next to nothing to the roster? The really scary part of that is, according to the narrative, KOC had to talk KAM into staying on script and picking Addison instead of another trade back.
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Post by frantheman10 on Oct 8, 2023 19:50:57 GMT -6
Just to be clear, I like Kirk but do you want the Vikings to resign a 36 yr old Kirk for another 2-3 years at $40mm per? don't know, not sure what the plan is I am just tired of all the vitriol for Kirk when he is far better than what the Vikings other options were. Someone will sign Kirk this offseason for over $40M. Without Kirk the Vikings are in for some bad years, and I wonder what JJ will do w/o a quality QB. Dude, we got Kirk now playing at a high level and we’re 1-4. What’s the plan? The plan better be to strip this team down to the studs and start over. We have two good players under contract for 2024: JJ and Darrisaw. We’re in for a 2-3 yr rebuild and a 36 yr old expensive QB doesn’t fit. Kirk should finish his career where he may have a shot to win a championship. Not part of a dumpster fire tear down.
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Post by lunas on Oct 8, 2023 20:55:27 GMT -6
I’m pretty sure that McMahon Brad Johnson and Favee won SBs. sorry I thought it was obvious that you would understand that it was zero rings when they were over the hill QB’s playing for us but according to your response maybe we could bring back Montana and Aikman to lead us.
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Post by tavike on Oct 8, 2023 21:05:50 GMT -6
Osborne was by far the worst player on the Field IMO. Doesn't even look for the ball on a would be td pass that zings by his head. On another catch he runs to the middle of the field instead of heading to the left sideline which would have gotten him inside the 10 and maybe a TD and at least 2 drops on easy catches and his blocking was garbage.
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Post by redbird87 on Oct 8, 2023 22:06:14 GMT -6
Fran, Dan Marino, Dan Fouts, Jim Kelly, blah blah blah... some of the greatest QBs. None could do it by themselves. When Kirk is gone people will realize how well he played and all the holes he covered up. Just to be clear, I like Kirk but do you want the Vikings to resign a 36 yr old Kirk for another 2-3 years at $40mm per? Yes. This team is not in a position to make a rookie QB successful
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Post by cujo2019 on Oct 8, 2023 22:20:17 GMT -6
Says who our GM Is better then speil he took us in cap hell our new brought us out.
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Post by cujo2019 on Oct 8, 2023 22:24:14 GMT -6
I like to see you folks catch a football In the middle of field and get hit hard you folks would drop the ball It's not easy. Folks sit behind the TV and eat chips easy to say they are bad get out In feild see how you do.
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Post by vikes79 on Oct 8, 2023 23:37:45 GMT -6
Fran, Dan Marino, Dan Fouts, Jim Kelly, blah blah blah... some of the greatest QBs. None could do it by themselves. When Kirk is gone people will realize how well he played and all the holes he covered up. Just to be clear, I like Kirk but do you want the Vikings to resign a 36 yr old Kirk for another 2-3 years at $40mm per? I don’t think the team as constructed could support a rookie QB…they would end up as a skid mark behind this oline. I’d try the team friendly route for a 2-3 year deal, and pull the QB lever in the draft each year to hopefully facilitate a year or two of learning before moving on from KC….this should have been happening -2 two years ago.
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