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Post by Prටudhටrn on Nov 25, 2020 14:55:52 GMT -6
season to get ready for the Draft because their teams stink are a bunch of turds.
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Post by JR44 on Nov 25, 2020 17:10:41 GMT -6
If they are doing this, because they feel there is nothing to play for and they just want to get ready for the draft, then I totally agree, but if they are doing it, because of the consistent rising cases of COVID in the league and they are concerned about getting it and bringing it into their families, then I totally understand and would support them.
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Post by Deleted on Nov 25, 2020 17:40:32 GMT -6
College conferences should have foreseen that this was likely to happen when they were making their decisions at the beginning of the season.
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Post by frantheman10 on Nov 25, 2020 17:59:43 GMT -6
A school gives you a scholarship to play football and a free education. You get coaching to prepare for a possible pro career. Then with a few weeks left in the season you abandon your team. That’s bullshit. Live up to your commitment. And COVID is not an excuse. COVID has been here all season and will be here next year. If they were worried about COVID then they should have opted out in August not November.
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Post by Prටudhටrn on Nov 25, 2020 18:43:52 GMT -6
It's not a bad as the turds that were opting out the Bowl games in prior seasons. I just hope teams take note of it. That the player is apt to boogie when times are tough. Opting out before the season due to medical concerns is different. Opting out because your team sucks should be a red flag.
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Post by Vikeroo on Nov 25, 2020 22:37:35 GMT -6
A school gives you a scholarship to play football and a free education. You get coaching to prepare for a possible pro career. Then with a few weeks left in the season you abandon your team. That’s bullshit. Live up to your commitment. And COVID is not an excuse. COVID has been here all season and will be here next year. If they were worried about COVID then they should have opted out in August not November. Schools make a lot of money off those players...
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Post by 2012mom on Nov 26, 2020 8:08:22 GMT -6
I'll throw in an opposing view.
A small percentage of college players have a realistic possibility of playing in the NFL. If they make it, and especially if they're drafted, even a single year contract is likely to pay at least 10x what their parents make. Making it to the NFL can be a life changing situation for their entire family, and an injury now could remove that chance. And this year, on top of everything else, football increases their chances of exposure to COVID.
When an entire locker room knows that the season's goals are unattainable, do all of the other players keep practicing and playing with their original intensity, or do they "take plays off." I would argue that openly leaving the team, and taking the negative publicity that comes with it, is a more honest response than staying with a team without giving 100%.
Most colleges and universities will use these athletes to generate revenue without respect for their long term safety and well being. What happens to one of these athletes if they stay with the team and are injured? Is the University going to make up for their long term earning potential?
As for the cost of the education, it's a quid pro quo for which the athletes have been paying with their bodies for 10 years.
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Post by frantheman10 on Nov 26, 2020 10:49:06 GMT -6
I agree that student athletes are a business relationship that both sides benefit from. If player decides that he doesn’t want to play anymore then the school can decide that it doesn’t want to pay anymore. If a player chooses to skip the last month of games then the school is within their right to withdraw the scholarship and ask the player to pay tuition for his final semester. These young people need to know that there’s no free lunches in life despite what they may hear from some politicians. Decisions have consequences. My two cents.
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Post by Vikeroo on Nov 27, 2020 16:57:35 GMT -6
I agree that student athletes are a business relationship that both sides benefit from. If player decides that he doesn’t want to play anymore then the school can decide that it doesn’t want to pay anymore. If a player chooses to skip the last month of games then the school is within their right to withdraw the scholarship and ask the player to pay tuition for his final semester. These young people need to know that there’s no free lunches in life despite what they may hear from some politicians. Decisions have consequences. My two cents. Schools are on the winning side of the ledger on this deal at least in BCS conferences so they would never go for it... Students give up their scholarship after the semester anyway... And what you suggest would be the quickest route to a semi pro league forming for players to opt to... I would agree with you if the players were allowed to go Pro out of high school, but we have this strange 3 year deal where players who want to play in the NFL are forced (and yes I mean forced) to spend 3 years out of high school with the only clear path signing an unpaid contract with a college... Once the players can be eligible to play for money out of high school then I am fine with this approach... You completely discount the 2,3, and even 4 years some of these players have already put in (red shirting and the like) previous to this point... People on academic scholarships can work as tutors, lab assistants, office workers, and other jobs with in the school while receiving and academic scholarship... Athletes do not have the same opportunities due to perceptions of "pay to play" benefits... Your 2 cents is basically supporting a position that would be untenable in "Business"... Education is not supposed to be business...
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Post by Vikeroo on Nov 27, 2020 16:59:28 GMT -6
I agree that student athletes are a business relationship that both sides benefit from. If player decides that he doesn’t want to play anymore then the school can decide that it doesn’t want to pay anymore. If a player chooses to skip the last month of games then the school is within their right to withdraw the scholarship and ask the player to pay tuition for his final semester. These young people need to know that there’s no free lunches in life despite what they may hear from some politicians. Decisions have consequences. My two cents. Schools are on the winning side of the ledger on this deal at least in BCS conferences so they would never go for it... Students give up their scholarship after the semester anyway... And what you suggest would be the quickest route to a semi pro league forming for players to opt to... I would agree with you if the players were allowed to go Pro out of high school, but we have this strange 3 year deal where players who want to play in the NFL are forced (and yes I mean forced) to spend 3 years out of high school with the only clear path signing an unpaid contract with a college... Once the players can be eligible to play for money out of high school then I am fine with this approach... You completely discount the 2,3, and even 4 years some of these players have already put in (red shirting and the like) previous to this point... People on academic scholarships can work as tutors, lab assistants, office workers, and other jobs with in the school while receiving and academic scholarship... Athletes do not have the same opportunities due to perceptions of "pay to play" benefits... Your 2 cents is basically supporting a position that would be untenable in "Business"... Education is not supposed to be business... P.S. How do you feel about players that get career ending injuries and lose their scholarships? It happens...
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Post by Prටudhටrn on Dec 27, 2020 12:30:12 GMT -6
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