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Post by surfnorthwest on Jan 12, 2020 20:37:58 GMT -6
My God enough of these itβs not Zimmers fault itβs Ricks fault no itβs not Ricks fault itβs Zimmers fault thread. They both suck. Theyβve been a team for 6 years and delivered shit. Some of you people have to learn how to let go your bro crushes for these two fuckin losers.
Okay Lombardi, now that this team is so close you want to blow it all up and start over? Everyone of the coaches on this Viking team know more than you and I will ever know about winning in the NFL....but ya, they suck.
I wish you could spend a week at the Vikings training facility and see what a great job the entire staff and team does with what they have.
You are truly a football dumb-ass with beta male emotions.
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Post by autobon7 on Jan 12, 2020 20:53:05 GMT -6
My God enough of these itβs not Zimmers fault itβs Ricks fault no itβs not Ricks fault itβs Zimmers fault thread. They both suck. Theyβve been a team for 6 years and delivered shit. Some of you people have to learn how to let go your bro crushes for these two fuckin losers.
Okay Lombardi, now that this team is so close you want to blow it all up and start over? Everyone of the coaches on this Viking team know more than you and I will ever know about winning in the NFL....but ya, they suck.
I wish you could spend a week at the Vikings training facility and see what a great job the entire staff and team does with what they have.
You are truly a football dumb-ass with beta male emotions.
Just like in the Water Boy.......mommas wrong again. You seem to think you are far more knowledgeable than anyone here and those who disagree with your views are regulated to your put downs and bad mouthed etc. You sir are the one exhibiting hilarious faux beta male behavior. You must live in Green Bay because for you to come on here potty mouth fellow Vike fans just donβt sit well with me. Ok to disagree but damn dude.....
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Post by RF54 on Jan 12, 2020 20:59:29 GMT -6
all of you clamoring for change need to put your money where your mouth is, if hiring a new GM or Coach is so easy name your choice. I for one remember too many years without Zim and Rick and those were dark times in Minny
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Post by covike61 on Jan 12, 2020 21:16:33 GMT -6
I don't want to blow this whole thing up and they won't. Why not try a different GM..maybe Paton or Kubiak for gods sakes..need some new direction and get out of the mediocrity we're stuck in
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Post by kato70s on Jan 12, 2020 21:35:15 GMT -6
THIER business of which we are the customers. And side note: I call b.s. on them wanting to win a superbowl as bad as the fans (except for their increased profits, which is 1000% fine by me).
Wilfs, as many explained, have done & spent alot. From there down is where some people are not doing their jobs...and Wilf's only fault lies in not holding them responsible.
And that is contagious to Rick who passes it on and so on & so on all the way to the PS. The bulk of making sausage is from GM to last man on the roster. That is what gets measured publically. It doesnt add up.
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Post by franklin99 on Jan 12, 2020 22:48:37 GMT -6
Somebody mentioned profit earlier...
Based solely on maximizing profit, it seems much more profitable for the collective owners to get a GBay vs SFran NFCCG. MN vs Seattle? Not good. GBay vs SFran? Oh Yes.
How day do dat? Got lucky I guess.
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Post by BigRussian on Jan 12, 2020 22:56:43 GMT -6
I know people hate Spielman, but he is not the problem. The Problem is Zimmer. A head coach needs to be a head coach not the DC. A head coaches job is to teach, game plan, evaluate talent, prepare his players, motivate them and adjust. Zimmer I believe is an adequate to good teacher of DEF. But the rest is just not his cup of tea. Teams tend to take on a coaches personality and our coach is a loser, who plays scared, doesnβt take chances and crumbles in the biggest moments. Not only does that describe Zimmer.... it is pretty much the MO of the entire team. Nothing is going to change until Zimmer is shown the door! I agree that its the end of the run for Zim. I don't agree with your venom because Zim did a lot of good for this org. But it doesn't matter because at the end of the day i agree its time for Zim to go. CB guru....hmmmm....doesnt look so good now. Ignoring the offense, OC and scheme......not good. I like Zim but after 5 years, which was a fair amount of time, the clock has run out. I can see him either leaving now or being extended 2 years but nothing in between. HE won't go lame duck. Edwards leaving is a sign.
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Post by kato70s on Jan 12, 2020 23:15:49 GMT -6
I know people hate Spielman, but he is not the problem. The Problem is Zimmer. A head coach needs to be a head coach not the DC. A head coaches job is to teach, game plan, evaluate talent, prepare his players, motivate them and adjust. Zimmer I believe is an adequate to good teacher of DEF. But the rest is just not his cup of tea. Teams tend to take on a coaches personality and our coach is a loser, who plays scared, doesnβt take chances and crumbles in the biggest moments. Not only does that describe Zimmer.... it is pretty much the MO of the entire team. Nothing is going to change until Zimmer is shown the door! I agree that its the end of the run for Zim. Β I don't agree with your venom because Zim did a lot of good for this org. But it doesn't matter because at the end of the day i agree its time for Zim to go. CB guru....hmmmm....doesnt look so good now. Ignoring the offense, OC and scheme......not good. I like Zim but after 5 years, which was a fair amount of time, the clock has run out.Β I can see him either leaving now or being extended 2 years but nothing in between. Β HE won't go lame duck. Edwards leaving is a sign. Edwards does seem odd...as wud Kubiak/s even flirting with leaving. Perhaps there is more going on? Someone said Adam Zimmer as candidate for DC...I have no words for that.
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Post by einhornisfinkle on Jan 12, 2020 23:27:08 GMT -6
My God enough of these itβs not Zimmers fault itβs Ricks fault no itβs not Ricks fault itβs Zimmers fault thread. They both suck. Theyβve been a team for 6 years and delivered shit. Some of you people have to learn how to let go your bro crushes for these two fuckin losers.
Okay Lombardi, now that this team is so close you want to blow it all up and start over? Everyone of the coaches on this Viking team know more than you and I will ever know about winning in the NFL....but ya, they suck.
I wish you could spend a week at the Vikings training facility and see what a great job the entire staff and team does with what they have.
You are truly a football dumb-ass with beta male emotions.Β
They have been blown out in two of there last 3 playoff games. Please oh please explain how they are close to a Super bowl, over the cap, with 13 free agents coming up and 2 recent top draft picks looking like busts.
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Post by nypurplepeopleeater on Jan 13, 2020 5:49:33 GMT -6
My God enough of these itβs not Zimmers fault itβs Ricks fault no itβs not Ricks fault itβs Zimmers fault thread. They both suck. Theyβve been a team for 6 years and delivered shit. Some of you people have to learn how to let go your bro crushes for these two fuckin losers.
Okay Lombardi, now that this team is so close you want to blow it all up and start over? Everyone of the coaches on this Viking team know more than you and I will ever know about winning in the NFL....but ya, they suck.
I wish you could spend a week at the Vikings training facility and see what a great job the entire staff and team does with what they have.
You are truly a football dumb-ass with beta male emotions.Β
So close. To what? Itβs not a SB. But go on and keep dreaming that your heroes are on the cusp of delivering a SB. Youβre a typical Viking fan. Happy with mediocrity and when another fan challenges that mentality, pull out the old β why donβt you try and be the coach β. Lame.
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Post by holmanjp on Jan 13, 2020 6:30:42 GMT -6
My God enough of these itβs not Zimmers fault itβs Ricks fault no itβs not Ricks fault itβs Zimmers fault thread. They both suck. Theyβve been a team for 6 years and delivered shit. Some of you people have to learn how to let go your bro crushes for these two fuckin losers.
Okay Lombardi, now that this team is so close you want to blow it all up and start over? Everyone of the coaches on this Viking team know more than you and I will ever know about winning in the NFL....but ya, they suck.
I wish you could spend a week at the Vikings training facility and see what a great job the entire staff and team does with what they have.
You are truly a football dumb-ass with beta male emotions.Β
The part about.now that this team is so close. It was good for a laugh. This team will be dismantled just to get under the cap.
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Post by studwellisgod on Jan 13, 2020 7:12:50 GMT -6
Okay Lombardi, now that this team is so close you want to blow it all up and start over? Everyone of the coaches on this Viking team know more than you and I will ever know about winning in the NFL....but ya, they suck.
I wish you could spend a week at the Vikings training facility and see what a great job the entire staff and team does with what they have.
You are truly a football dumb-ass with beta male emotions.
They have been blown out in two of there last 3 playoff games. Please oh please explain how they are close to a Super bowl, over the cap, with 13 free agents coming up and 2 recent top draft picks looking like busts. exactly, they are further away from a Super Bowl than they were Saturday. With Cap hell, a game plan that is left in the 1908s/90s, and a coach that has proven he cannot win the big games consistently is all I need to see. We will be between 8-8 and 10-6 next year, either just make the playoffs or just miss them. Hopefully its enough for the Wilfs to pull the trigger on Zim
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Post by studwellisgod on Jan 13, 2020 7:18:31 GMT -6
Okay Lombardi, now that this team is so close you want to blow it all up and start over? Everyone of the coaches on this Viking team know more than you and I will ever know about winning in the NFL....but ya, they suck.
I wish you could spend a week at the Vikings training facility and see what a great job the entire staff and team does with what they have.
You are truly a football dumb-ass with beta male emotions.
So close. To what? Itβs not a SB. But go on and keep dreaming that your heroes are on the cusp of delivering a SB. Youβre a typical Viking fan. Happy with mediocrity and when another fan challenges that mentality, pull out the old β why donβt you try and be the coach β. Lame. or the great "look at what we had before!" Yeah thanks to Slick Rick and the Childress/Frazier hires. NFL coaches get 5 years to get it done, most can get there in 3 years. I don't give a rip if the D is top ten or O for that matter. What matters is getting to the Bowl! Playoffs, who gives a rip. We lost 30 of them for cripes sakes! We've been there plenty. We need someone who take take the team and put together a solid unit that can do more then win a playoff game every couple years.
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Post by nypurplepeopleeater on Jan 13, 2020 8:34:31 GMT -6
The GB and Titans coaches are rookies. Shanahan is in his 3rd year. But we have to give Zimmer 10 years to figure it out. Amazing.
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Post by zoup on Jan 13, 2020 9:51:03 GMT -6
With 32 teams you can't expect a Super Bowl win in any given year. Teams change season to season unlike when I was a kid and watched the same players for a decade or more. Alot of teams will never win it in the next 50 years, if the league lasts that long. Hope is all you can have. No fan "deserves" a SB win. Zimmer cares and is a decent coach. The next guy might be a 2-14 guy. No way to know.
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