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Post by surfnorthwest on Jan 12, 2020 9:13:56 GMT -6
Was hoping the 2020 NFL Offensive line class would be better. Lot of old horses here.
IMO had our offensive line been better I think the game in SF yesterday would have been much different.
Andrew Whitworth LT 38 LAR Anthony Castonzo LT 32 IND Ron Leary G 31 DEN Ryan Kalil C 35 NYJ Kelvin Beachum LT 30 NYJ Bryan Bulaga RT 31 GB Greg Robinson LT 27 CLE Marcus Gilbert RT 32 ARI Jason Peters LT 38 PHI Daryl Williams RT 28 CAR Demar Dotson RT 34 TB Brandon Scherff G 28 WAS Spencer Long C 29 BUF Jack Conklin RT 26 TEN Cameron Fleming T 27 DAL Jared Veldheer RT 33 GB Ereck Flowers G 26 WAS George Fant T 28 SEA B.J. Finney G 28 PIT Andrus Peat G 26 NO Mike Iupati G 33 SEA Michael Schofield G 29 LAC Mike Remmers RT 31 NYG D.J. Humphries LT 26 ARI Germain Ifedi RT 26 SEA Quinton Spain G 29 BUF Donald Penn RT 37 WAS Rashod Hill G 28 MIN Evan Boehm G 27 MIA LaAdrian Waddle RT 29 BUF Max Garcia G 28 ARI A.Q. Shipley C 34 ARI Tom Compton G 31 NYJ Kevin Pamphile G 29 TEN Dennis Kelly RT 30 TEN Brent Qvale RT 29 NYJ Jason Spriggs T 26 GB Oday Aboushi T 29 DET Jordan Mills RT 29 ARI Ted Larsen G 33 CHI Tyler Shatley G 29 JAC John Jerry G 34 CIN J'Marcus Webb RT 32 MIA Marshall Newhouse RT 31 NE Stefen Wisniewski C 31 KC Chris Clark LT 34 HOU Cedric Ogbuehi LT 28 JAC Jordan Devey G 32 OAK Dakota Dozier LT 29 MIN Tony Bergstrom C 34 WAS Earl Watford G 30 TB Greg Van Roten G 30 CAR Xavier Su'a-Filo G 29 DAL Shon Coleman T 28 SF Cornelius Lucas LT 29 CHI Ben Garland C 32 SF Patrick Omameh RT 30 NO Josh Wells RT 29 TB Ryan Groy G 29 LAC T.J. Clemmings RT 28 CHI Benjamin Ijalana RT 31 JAC Joe Thuney G 27 NE Le'Raven Clark RT 27 IND Graham Glasgow G 28 DET David Sharpe T 24 OAK Joey Hunt C 26 SEA James Ferentz C 31 NE Brett Jones C 29 MIN Parker Ehinger G 27 BAL John Wetzel G 29 ATL Hroniss Grasu C 29 BAL Jerald Hawkins T 26 TB Alex Lewis G 26 NYJ Josh Andrews G 29 IND Connor McGovern C 27 DEN Joe Haeg G 27 IND Matt Feiler RT 28 PIT Jon Halapio C 29 NYG Justin McCray G 28 CLE Matt Skura C 27 BAL Elijah Wilkinson RT 25 DEN Cameron Tom G 25 NO Michael Liedtke G 28 TB Rashaad Coward RT 25 CHI Jermaine Eluemunor G 25 NE Alex Redmond G 25 CIN Leo Koloamatangi T 26 NYJ Spencer Drango G 27 LAC Brandon Shell T 28 NYJ Halapoulivaati Vaitai G 27 PHI Ted Karras C 27 NE Wes Schweitzer C 26 ATL Austin Blythe G 28 LAR Zach Banner T 26 PIT Brandon Thomas G 29 JAC Jordan Simmons T 26 SEA Chad Slade RT 28 NYG Jordan Roos G 27 SEA Sean Harlow G 25 ATL Andrew Wylie T 26 KC Trenton Scott G 26 LAC Eric Smith G 24 NYG Roderick Johnson T 24 HOU Adam Redmond C 27 DAL Cameron Hunt G 28 OAK Javarius Leamon T 27 CIN Brandon Greene G 26 CAR Kitt O'Brien G 30 CAR Daniel Brunskill G 26 SF Coleman Shelton C 25 LAR Jake Rodgers T 28 DEN Andrew Lauderdale T 26 SF Randin Crecelius G 24 BAL Evan Brown C 23 MIA Lester Cotton G 24 OAK John Leglue G 24 GB Matt Kaskey T 23 CAR J.C. Hassenauer C 26 PIT Quinn Bailey T 24 DEN Justin Murray T 27 ARI Kyle Murphy T 26 LAR Dillon DeBoer C 26 LAC Richie Incognito G 37 OAK Isaac Asiata G 27 BUF Andre Smith RT 33 BAL |
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Post by willieteal37 on Jan 13, 2020 8:47:27 GMT -6
Nothing in free agency for O line; however, there are 6 or 7 OTs in the draft that profile extremely well. The question is, do they flip O'Neill to LT? He certainly has the athleticism and has done it in college. Or do you think you can find a starting LT in the draft? Reiff has been average, but is expensive and clearly an upgrade is needed on the left side. Elflein is a center only and needs to be traded.
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Post by brda on Jan 13, 2020 9:02:18 GMT -6
Nothing in free agency for O line; however, there are 6 or 7 OTs in the draft that profile extremely well. The question is, do they flip O'Neill to LT? He certainly has the athleticism and has done it in college. Or do you think you can find a starting LT in the draft? Reiff has been average, but is expensive and clearly an upgrade is needed on the left side. Elflein is a center only and needs to be traded. Elfein is a poor center and why we replaced him at that position. He graded decently in rush blocking is likely the only reason he started at LG. The guy cannot pass protect and gets dominated and at best should be depth. As far as looking at UFA lineman, where do we get the cap space to compete with other teams, when we cannot afford our own. Only UFA lineman that we can afford are likely going to be rated poorly and worse than we we currently have. Not a solution to our problems. |
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Post by legion11 on Jan 13, 2020 10:56:56 GMT -6
Brandon Scherff and Jack Conklin are the only names on that list that remotely excite me, but very little chance we can afford either without shedding a ton of our current players (which we probably should do anyway).
Hey we could always bring TJ Clemmings back. Dougpascal would probably get excited over that.
I thought when GB drafted Spriggs he was going to be a good one, but I'm glad he turned out terrible for them.
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Post by vik4real on Jan 13, 2020 12:39:13 GMT -6
That Oline has to get bigger and faster because little and faster doesnβt get you past the upper echelon of defenses in the NFL.
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Post by Sawdust King on Jan 13, 2020 18:03:52 GMT -6
Has anybody here watched that big tackle from Louisville Becton?
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Post by 2012mom on Jan 13, 2020 22:18:50 GMT -6
Has anybody here watched that big tackle from Louisville Becton? He's really big, and I'd call him a better run blocker than a pass blocker. He has a tendency to want to throw defenders to the ground, but if he misses, it can get him out of position. I think this is every snap vs Notre Dame bucsreport.com/2020/01/05/draft-profile-mekhi-becton-ot-louisville/ |
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Post by legion11 on Jan 14, 2020 10:19:17 GMT -6
Has anybody here watched that big tackle from Louisville Becton? Minnesota does not believe O-linemen should be big and strong. We prefer undersized and easy overpowered. |
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Post by kato70s on Jan 14, 2020 11:18:38 GMT -6
The huge gopher...is that a carnival act or..? How did he do vs Penn State, Iowa, Wisc. vs Auburn or did I hear he was hurt?
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Post by Sawdust King on Jan 14, 2020 11:52:34 GMT -6
Has anybody here watched that big tackle from Louisville Becton? Minnesota does not believe O-linemen should be big and strong. We prefer undersized and easy overpowered. in other words bowling pins |
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Post by shawn3458 on Jan 14, 2020 14:22:58 GMT -6
This sounds like a huge improvement over Elf.......
7. LG JOE THUNEY, NEW ENGLAND PATRIOTS
Positional grade rank: 5th at guard
Thuney ended the 2018 season on the highest of notes, not allowing a single pressure in 18 pass-blocking snaps matched up against Aaron Donald in the Super Bowl. That isnβt a feat to take lightly. He has carried over that play into 2019 and comes in at seventh on the list of the top offensive linemen this season.
Thuney has been outstanding in pass protection, allowing just 16 pressures in 584 pass-blocking snaps this season, ranking fourth among all guards in pressure rate allowed at 2.7%. He will need to continue to provide clean pockets for Tom Brady because, as weβve dived into recently, the Patriots offense has struggled this season to make plays when pressure gets home against them.
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Post by skodin on Jan 14, 2020 14:59:08 GMT -6
Any chance we slide Reiff inside where his shorter arms and size could be beneficial? His lack of speed could be hidden here
We could draft LT in the first, slide Reiff to LG, send Garrett to the weight room, and let the right side season.
Question is, can you upgrade the LG position for less than we are paying Reiff?
Stud LT, solid LG and RG play, improved Center, and Stud RT should be good enough for this offense (outside of a rookie WR pick up)
Cuts, spending, 2nd, 3rd and 4th round picks for the D
Cuts: Griff, Linval, Rhodes
Spending: Reed/Billings/AShawn, Mac, Harris, Weatherly
Draft: DT, DE, CB 2-4
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Post by wolfpack87 on Jan 14, 2020 21:03:31 GMT -6
This sounds like a huge improvement over Elf....... 7. LG JOE THUNEY, NEW ENGLAND PATRIOTS Positional grade rank: 5th at guard Thuney ended the 2018 season on the highest of notes, not allowing a single pressure in 18 pass-blocking snaps matched up against Aaron Donald in the Super Bowl. That isnβt a feat to take lightly. He has carried over that play into 2019 and comes in at seventh on the list of the top offensive linemen this season. Thuney has been outstanding in pass protection, allowing just 16 pressures in 584 pass-blocking snaps this season, ranking fourth among all guards in pressure rate allowed at 2.7%. He will need to continue to provide clean pockets for Tom Brady because, as weβve dived into recently, the Patriots offense has struggled this season to make plays when pressure gets home against them. Thuney is a beast. I'm a homer but I loved this guy at NC State. Honestly a little surprised if he leaves New England but I'd love to see him in purple next few years |
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