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Post by PrΰΆ§udhΰΆ§rn on Sept 9, 2024 9:09:53 GMT -6
The Vikings' top 5 PFF grades on O + D from their win over NYG:
Offense LG Blake Brandel 91.2 RB Aaron Jones 90.9 QB Sam Darnold 88.1 RT Brian O'Neill 85.9 LT Christian Darrisaw 79.4
Defense OLB Andrew Van Ginkel 90.6 S Harrison Smith 90.4 LB Ivan Pace Jr. 82.2 DT Harrison Phillips 80.3
Bottom 5 #Vikings on OFF/DEF according to @pff .
Offense 5. Brandon Powell 55.0 4. Ed Ingram 51.9 3. Garrett Bradbury 44.8 2. CJ Ham 40.2 1. Johnny Mundt 39.7
Defense 5. Jonathan Greenard 60.4 4.Taki Taimani 58.4 3.Shaq Griffin 54.2 2. Pat Jones II 41.3 1. Dallas Turner 40.7
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Post by β GCBenβ on Sept 9, 2024 9:24:05 GMT -6
Surprised to see Jones & Turner rated so poorly - I wasn't able to watch every snap but they had a few sacks between them and I didn't notice any glaring issues.
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Post by mgb8 on Sept 9, 2024 9:30:34 GMT -6
Aaron Jones deserved that grade. He ran hard and well - great combination of power, speed, and quickness/elusiveness.
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Sept 9, 2024 9:51:48 GMT -6
Post by redbird87 on Sept 9, 2024 9:51:48 GMT -6
Surprised to see Jones & Turner rated so poorly - I wasn't able to watch every snap but they had a few sacks between them and I didn't notice any glaring issues. Think those numbers pass the eye test other than maybe P Jones. Again, when you watch a game 1 time you aren't able to analyze every player, but I thought he looked quick, powerful, played with a high motor and was disruptive as a pass rusher from the edge + I think he registered 2 sacks. I often wonder if his lower ratings are a result of his utilization as an inside rusher where he is playing out of position? I thought Metellus played quite well on defense as well but the other 5 all played well so no complaints. Not surprised by Turner, he had the one sack but otherwise didn't seem to do much. I thought of the 4 edges he looked the least impactful, but it's game one....so I didn't expect him to take the league by storm in his first game. Bottom 5 O looks about right. Super excited to see Brandel play so well. He's a people mover in the run game. I think the only real question I had coming into this game is how he'd fare in Pass Pro. It's one game and they clearly picked on Ingram over him, so I'm not getting ahead of myself, but clearly nice to see him do so well.
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Post by PrΰΆ§udhΰΆ§rn on Sept 9, 2024 10:22:09 GMT -6
www.si.com/nfl/vikings/news/vikings-snap-counts-and-notable-pff-grades-from-week-1-win-over-giants-01j7bjrqfw38The Vikings handled business against a bad team in impressive fashion on Sunday, imposing their will on the Giants in a 28-6 romp. A blend of newcomers and mainstays meshed excellently in their first opportunity to take the field together and set the tone for this season. Let's take a look at the snap counts and some notable Pro Football Focus grades to see what we can learn from the Vikings' opener. Vikings offensive snap counts vs. Giants (out of 55) * QB Sam Darnold: 55 * C Garrett Bradbury: 55 * LT Christian Darrisaw: 55 * LG Blake Brandel: 55 * RG Ed Ingram: 55 * RT Brian OβNeill: 55 * WR Justin Jefferson: 46 * WR Brandon Powell: 30 * RB Aaron Jones: 30 * TE Johnny Mundt: 29 * WR Jordan Addison: 28 * TE Josh Oliver: 27 * WR Jalen Nailor: 26 * RB Ty Chandler: 20 * FB C.J. Ham: 19 * WR Trent Sherfield: 17 * TE Nick Muse: 2 * RB Myles Gaskin: 1 Addison left the game in the third quarter with an ankle injury, which meant the Vikings leaned on Powell, Nailor, and Sherfield to complement Jefferson. Nailor scored a touchdown, but it's notable that he played fewer snaps than the veteran Powell (who didn't have a target). Jones out-snapping Chandler 30 to 20 feels about right, although I'd imagine Jones' share of the playing time will go up slightly in next week's tough matchup against the 49ers. Notable PFF grades on offense The Vikings' top five grades on offense included three linemen. 1. Brandel β 91.2 2. Jones β 90.9 3. Darnold β 88.1 4. O'Neill β 85.9 5. Darrisaw β 79.4 Among that group, Brandel stands out. The former backup tackle had a stellar debut as the Vikings' starting left guard, earning a grade above 87 in both run blocking and pass blocking. He didn't allow a single pressure. O'Neill and Darrisaw did what they often do and held Giants edge rushers Brian Burns and Kayvon Thibodeaux to one pressure apiece. Darnold was sharp and efficient. Jones showed why the Vikings were so high on him. Ingram and Bradbury, who had their hands full with the dominant Dexter Lawrence, received poor grades. So did Ham, who lost a fumble on the opening possession, and Mundt. Vikings defensive snap counts vs. Giants (out of 70) * S Camryn Bynum: 67 * S Harrison Smith: 67 * S Josh Metellus: 63 * LB Blake Cashman: 62 * CB Stephon Gilmore: 61 * CB Byron Murphy Jr: 55 * OLB Jonathan Greenard: 51 * CB Shaq Griffin: 44 * OLB Andrew Van Ginkel: 41 * LB Ivan Pace Jr: 38 * DL Jerry Tillery: 38 * DL Harrison Phillips: 36 * OLB Dallas Turner: 35 * OLB Pat Jones II: 34 * DL Jihad Ward: 29 * DL Jonathan Bullard: 27 * DL Taki Taimani: 10 * S Jay Ward: 3 * CB Akayleb Evans: 3 * S Theo Jackson: 3 * CB Bobby McCain: 3 What a performance by this group. Brian Flores looks to have all the pieces he needs to lead a very dangerous defense in 2024. It's notable that Cashman wore the green dot and played 87 percent of the snaps. Pace only played 54 percent of the snaps, but he was very disruptive when he was on the field. Van Ginkel, whose pick-six was one of the highlights of the game, also shined in a less-than-full-time role. 16 players seeing at least 27 snaps shows off the rotation that Flores wants to use to keep guys fresh, particularly among his defensive linemen and outside linebackers. Even Greenard might not be as much of an every-down player as Danielle Hunter was last year. It clearly worked, as the Vikings finished with five sacks and had five players record at least three pressures. Flores was even able to get some backup DBs on the field at the very end of a blowout win. Notable PFF grades on defense These were the top five grades for Flores' group: 1. Van Ginkel β 90.6 2. Smith β 90.4 3. Pace β 82.2 4. Phillips β 80.3 5. Metellus β 80.2 That's one newcomer in AVG to go along with four key holdovers from last year's team. Jihad Ward finished just off of that list with a 79.9 grade and four pressures in a matchup against his former team. Gilmore, Cashman, and Bynum also earned grades in the 70s on a banner day for the Vikings' defense. Notable lower grades went to Griffin, Jones, and Turner, even as the latter two combined for three sacks. Published 10 Minutes Ago Will Ragatz WILL RAGATZ
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Post by odinswrath on Sept 9, 2024 11:10:34 GMT -6
The Giants are not good but one thing they do have is a very strong defensive line. Great to see our o-line do so well against that group.
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Post by JR44 on Sept 9, 2024 11:26:06 GMT -6
Surprised to see Jones & Turner rated so poorly - I wasn't able to watch every snap but they had a few sacks between them and I didn't notice any glaring issues. Agree, Jones especially was dominant, both those grades seem pretty off.
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Post by nhbred on Sept 9, 2024 12:01:10 GMT -6
The Vikings' top 5 PFF grades on O + D from their win over NYG: Offense LG Blake Brandel 91.2 RB Aaron Jones 90.9 QB Sam Darnold 88.1 RT Brian O'Neill 85.9 LT Christian Darrisaw 79.4 Defense OLB Andrew Van Ginkel 90.6 S Harrison Smith 90.4 LB Ivan Pace Jr. 82.2 DT Harrison Phillips 80.3
Bottom 5 #Vikings on OFF/DEF according to @pff . Offense 5. Brandon Powell 55.0 4. Ed Ingram 51.9 3. Garrett Bradbury 44.8 2. CJ Ham 40.2 1. Johnny Mundt 39.7 Defense 5. Jonathan Greenard 60.4 4.Taki Taimani 58.4 3.Shaq Griffin 54.2 2. Pat Jones II 41.3 1. Dallas Turner 40.7 Sorry, but it has to be really hard to judge Flores' defense given how responsibilities change play by play -- especially for the outside linebackers. I do think Mundt had the worse game of all the Vikings -- when you need 4 yards throw to Mundt for 3.
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Post by nhbred on Sept 9, 2024 12:08:10 GMT -6
Though on the roster listed as a LB, I thought Jihad played DLine against the Giants on passing downs. It appears PFF listed him as DLine for the game. Made sense as the Vikings only had 4 DLineman suit up on Sunday (including Taki who is only there for short yardage plays). Ward appears to have found an interesting role on the D.
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Sept 9, 2024 13:44:20 GMT -6
Post by dougpaschal on Sept 9, 2024 13:44:20 GMT -6
Sorry, but it has to be really hard to judge Flores' defense It's probably not that hard when you don't have to be right and there's no accountability
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Sept 9, 2024 14:18:40 GMT -6
Post by iceratz16 on Sept 9, 2024 14:18:40 GMT -6
Aaron Jones deserved that grade. He ran hard and well - great combination of power, speed, and quickness/elusiveness. Darkhorse signing
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Post by iceratz16 on Sept 9, 2024 14:23:30 GMT -6
This comment from Will is exactly how I felt about the game. So often we play to the level of our opponent or try to get too cute and play passive to keep a bad team in it. Though I wish we would have pounded the Giants even more, I am fine with the way they played in the 4th quarter. This was definitely a missed opportunity for McCarthy though, as he would have been playing IMO in the 4th quarter to get some reps.
The Vikings handled business against a bad team in impressive fashion on Sunday, imposing their will on the Giants in a 28-6 romp. A blend of newcomers and mainstays meshed excellently in their first opportunity to take the field together and set the tone for this season.
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Sept 9, 2024 14:36:16 GMT -6
Post by redbird87 on Sept 9, 2024 14:36:16 GMT -6
Aaron Jones deserved that grade. He ran hard and well - great combination of power, speed, and quickness/elusiveness. Darkhorse signing He looked great yesterday.....Loved It! I wasn't thrilled when we signed him, but I never questioned his ability as a runner. He's always been a dynamic back. I question his ability to stay healthy over a full season and still have the zip and pop he showed yesterday come Dec/Jan when we need him most at the age of 30. Hopefully he can, but age and time catch everyone...particularly Running Backs! Here's to hoping he's been drinking from the fountain of youth! I'm of the opinion we need to bring up Gaskin full time and in a game like yesterday when we clearly have it under control, he should be on the sidelines wearing his sombrero helping him stay fresh and healthy over a long season! After I watched Sherfield get outjumped by a linebacker to make a play on the ball, he can go to the PS in lieu of Gaskin.
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Post by Vikeroo on Sept 9, 2024 19:10:41 GMT -6
Ward DL/OLB and Van Ginkel OLB/LB provide a lot of versatility in this defense as Gink can play some ILB and Ward can line up as a hand down edge, standup edge, or a 3 tech type. I thought he was creating a lot of room for other to breath (Ward that is).
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Post by ocvike on Sept 9, 2024 21:34:33 GMT -6
It's probably not that hard when you don't have to be right and there's no accountability This.
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