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Post by gopherhockey on Nov 27, 2023 22:17:53 GMT -6
I can’t not believe the stupid ass tank for draft big people jumped all over this, what a bunch of idiots. The issue with this game was the coaching and the quarterback play. Tanking for crapshoot is not going to fix that. By tank...I think most think that looks like playing your young guys, especially Hall. See if you got something or not. The draft is the best way to improve.
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Post by thehustle on Nov 27, 2023 22:18:05 GMT -6
The issue with this game was the coaching and the quarterback play. Tanking for crapshoot is not going to fix that. Tanking would have very likely solved one of those problems…had we actually tanked. Now that we’ve put ourselves squarely in the completely pointless middle of the league rankings, no, tanking won’t solve anything anymore.
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Post by brick on Nov 27, 2023 22:18:29 GMT -6
But he did continue to put the guy out there who did. The guy who has no chance of being the future of this team. Agreed. Dobbs should have been pulled. I think this game will put the Dobbs experiment behind us. Now do we go with Mullins or Hall. I'd choose Hall. Find out if something is there or not. I'm with you on Hall. Let's see what he has. Give him a true shot to show it.
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Post by rooscooter on Nov 27, 2023 22:19:05 GMT -6
Execution at the QB position, lack of depth and continued pass blocking issues got us this loss. The play calling after the last fumble was suspect but what do you do in that situation with what we've seen to that point? Dobbs isn't suddenly going to start pinpointing passes for first downs. Not many options. Being in the "playoff" race is something to talk about but this team isn't beating Detroit once, much less twice. The playcalling on both sides of the ball lost the game and it is not even close, "suspect playcalling" no it was horrible, not making any attempt to get a first down and then handing it over to your punter to try to pin them deep who has sucked all year and a defense led by a DC who can't coach under pressure is what lost the game. We made plenty of attempts to get first downs... 4 in fact that ended in turnovers. I don't like the play calling but what options were there? I'd take a pick at the 5 yard line over the punt but it's not like we saw anything tonight that said if we pass the ball downfield it will be successful. Other teams can run the ball in situations like that and for some reason we can't... and haven't been able to for what seems like a decade. Without a competent QB you just don't have a full playbook. I'm more upset with the prevent we played over that possession. Neither were good but we had been giving them fits with the blitz. In a Pick Your Poison situation I alway want to go aggressive... or what got you there but the advent of 24hr sports "news" and 300 opportunities to replay every decision during the week everyone is afraid of the hard decision. Tough loss, but in all reality this season was lost when Cousin's went down. Dobbs was a good story (and still is) but to overlook his ineptitude tonight is a little off.
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Post by shawn3458 on Nov 27, 2023 22:19:32 GMT -6
I can’t not believe the stupid ass tank for draft big people jumped all over this, what a bunch of idiots. The issue with this game was the coaching and the quarterback play. Tanking for crapshoot is not going to fix that. This team needs more help than any single draft will get them.
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Post by brick on Nov 27, 2023 22:21:19 GMT -6
Portal open next Monday.
Ah, dangit...wrong level.
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Post by iceratz16 on Nov 27, 2023 22:21:34 GMT -6
Well, that was fun. You take it, no you take it…I insist you can win…no I really don’t want to…you have it…haha…ok, fine, I’ll take it…no you can’t have it…I want it…we are going to win…never mind I didn’t want to win anyway, so you can have it…
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Post by tavike on Nov 27, 2023 22:21:40 GMT -6
That is three weeks in a row where KOC chose to eat clock and opponent timeouts instead of trying to win the game on offense. Knowing that merely using up the opponents timeouts gained you nothing as the opponent would still have plenty of time to do what they needed. they won the first week despite that because the defense forced 3 turnovers on down. They lost last week because he did the exact same thing in the exact same situation and he lost this week. Why do something that gains you no advantage...he just doesnt undestand clock management whatsover. That is the definition of insanity.
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Post by shawn3458 on Nov 27, 2023 22:22:07 GMT -6
The playcalling on both sides of the ball lost the game and it is not even close, "suspect playcalling" no it was horrible, not making any attempt to get a first down and then handing it over to your punter to try to pin them deep who has sucked all year and a defense led by a DC who can't coach under pressure is what lost the game. We made plenty of attempts to get first downs... 4 in fact that ended in turnovers. I don't like the play calling but what options were there? I'd take a pick at the 5 yard line over the punt but it's not like we saw anything tonight that said if we pass the ball downfield it will be successful. Other teams can run the ball in situations like that and for some reason we can't... and haven't been able to for what seems like a decade. Without a competent QB you just don't have a full playbook. I'm more upset with the prevent we played over that possession. Neither were good but we had been giving them fits with the blitz. In a Pick Your Poison situation I alway want to go aggressive... or what got you there but the advent of 24hr sports "news" and 300 opportunities to replay every decision during the week everyone is afraid of the hard decision. Tough loss, but in all reality this season was lost when Cousin's went down. Dobbs was a good story (and still is) but to overlook his ineptitude tonight is a little off. Absolutely 100% correct. Well said.
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Post by burntpackerdbs84 on Nov 27, 2023 22:22:57 GMT -6
That is three weeks in a row where KOC chose to eat clock and opponent timeouts instead of trying to win the game on offense. Knowing that merely using up the opponents timeouts gained you nothing as the opponent would still have plenty of time to do what they needed. they won the first week despite that because the defense forced 3 turnovers on down. They lost last week because he did the exact same thing in the exact same situation and he lost this week. Why do something that gains you no advantage...he just doesnt undestand clock management whatsover. Post of the year. He coaches scared, calls the dumbest f'ing plays at the most important parts of the games.
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Post by tavike on Nov 27, 2023 22:24:04 GMT -6
The playcalling on both sides of the ball lost the game and it is not even close, "suspect playcalling" no it was horrible, not making any attempt to get a first down and then handing it over to your punter to try to pin them deep who has sucked all year and a defense led by a DC who can't coach under pressure is what lost the game. We made plenty of attempts to get first downs... 4 in fact that ended in turnovers. I don't like the play calling but what options were there? I'd take a pick at the 5 yard line over the punt but it's not like we saw anything tonight that said if we pass the ball downfield it will be successful. Other teams can run the ball in situations like that and for some reason we can't... and haven't been able to for what seems like a decade. Without a competent QB you just don't have a full playbook. I'm more upset with the prevent we played over that possession. Neither were good but we had been giving them fits with the blitz. In a Pick Your Poison situation I alway want to go aggressive... or what got you there but the advent of 24hr sports "news" and 300 opportunities to replay every decision during the week everyone is afraid of the hard decision. Tough loss, but in all reality this season was lost when Cousin's went down. Dobbs was a good story (and still is) but to overlook his ineptitude tonight is a little off. On second down on the vikes last drive attempt, the Bears had everyone on the line of scrimmage. A pass would have been an easy first down.
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Post by intrepid on Nov 27, 2023 22:24:16 GMT -6
Execution at the QB position, lack of depth and continued pass blocking issues got us this loss. The play calling after the last fumble was suspect but what do you do in that situation with what we've seen to that point? Dobbs isn't suddenly going to start pinpointing passes for first downs. Not many options. Being in the "playoff" race is something to talk about but this team isn't beating Detroit once, much less twice. you are kidding me right? we had just put together a long TD drive...they moved the ball great. You do that!!!! You dont play eat the clock and go into a bunch offense and run it into the line followed by a ill conceived screen. Eating clock gains you nothing at all if it leaves them down 1 with 2 plus minutes left needing oly a FG 10 yards would have won us the game and he couldnt recognise that.
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Post by dukeofdubuque on Nov 27, 2023 22:25:26 GMT -6
Got what they deserved for coaching like cowards. . Double edged sword. Call more aggressively and the offense turns the ball over like they are on the take. Call conservative and go nowhere. Personally I’d rather lose turning it loose. When you look at the teams and coaches that consistently win and contend for championships, they have a killer instinct. They go for the throat. They don’t go into a shell and hope the other team misses a field goal at the end. I’m with you, I’d rather go down swinging.
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Post by vikes79 on Nov 27, 2023 22:26:24 GMT -6
Hey let’s be honest, Addison catches one or two of the three drops, this game looks a lot different.
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Post by burntpackerdbs84 on Nov 27, 2023 22:28:33 GMT -6
. Double edged sword. Call more aggressively and the offense turns the ball over like they are on the take. Call conservative and go nowhere. Personally I’d rather lose turning it loose. When you look at the teams and coaches that consistently win and contend for championships, they have a killer instinct. They go for the throat. They don’t go into a shell and hope the other team misses a field goal at the end. I’m with you, I’d rather go down swinging. We have never had a coach that does it.
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