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Post by gopherhockey on Sept 24, 2023 14:32:17 GMT -6
It is time to trade Kirk, Hunter, KJ, and honestly about anyone besides JJ, Hock, Addison, and Darrisaw. Maybe not O'neill after the latest restructure either. Problem is we have an inept GM that would have to try and replace those players. Kwesi is clueless and doesn't value either the d or o lines. He proved that this year.
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Post by cougar00 on Sept 24, 2023 14:32:30 GMT -6
It is time to trade Kirk, Hunter, KJ, and honestly about anyone besides JJ, Hock, Addison, and Darrisaw. Maybe not O'neill after the latest restructure either. Time to end the competitive rebuild and just rebuild.
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Post by frantheman10 on Sept 24, 2023 14:32:47 GMT -6
Spike the ball and you have 25 seconds to run 3 plays into the endzone. No brainer.
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Post by vr46 on Sept 24, 2023 14:32:58 GMT -6
Saints could use a QB too depending on Carr's injury. My thought too. Even if Carr is healthy β they have a seriously good defense being wasted because Carr is not a good qb Probably Kirk would refuse to be traded to either but would be fun to see jets and saints get in a bidding war for kirk They didn't look very good giving up 18 points in the 4th quarter.
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Post by brick on Sept 24, 2023 14:33:05 GMT -6
Get mad at Hock as he is the one should have made the play. He catches that and you aren't whining about clock management. And if Kirk makes the throw to Osborn in the end zone that drive isn't even needed. Great point. He HAS to make that throw.
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Post by lunas on Sept 24, 2023 14:34:01 GMT -6
KAM has one chance to save his career.
Hitch a ride on Caleb Williams back.
Trade Kirk. He has got to do it
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Post by smoot4208 on Sept 24, 2023 14:34:12 GMT -6
Spike the ball and you have 25 seconds to run 3 plays into the endzone.Β No brainer. Wouldnβt have mattered. Hockenson needed to catch that ball
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Post by Vikeroo on Sept 24, 2023 14:34:26 GMT -6
Kirk failed to clock in both the first half and in the 4th. Both times had a chance to run multiple plays after clocking it.
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Post by BigRussian on Sept 24, 2023 14:35:01 GMT -6
Did he fumble the ball? Did he let up a flea flicker? Did he drop an INT? Did he give up 455 yds passing? Did he commit a penalty? Did he call shit plays inside the 1? He wasn't great today but you said it yourself, he is not the problem The person getting paid the most cash should be the biggest asset Or everybody on the team does their job...... .....think i read that somewhere about football
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Post by purplevein on Sept 24, 2023 14:36:00 GMT -6
The one play that frustrated me the most, and there are about a dozen, is the botched interception by Evans that popped out of his hands and into the Charger receiverβs hands for a touchdown.
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Post by iceratz16 on Sept 24, 2023 14:36:17 GMT -6
Hock had two big blunders today. 1st down catch and allowed the defender to take the ball away. 1st and goal, he misses the catch right in his hands and allows the other team to intercept the pass and lose the game....
Clock management is a freaking cop out for so many, yet the reality is that the Vikings still would have had a least 10 seconds left. That's plenty of time to run two plays. I'm not sure why you need more time than that.
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Post by redbird87 on Sept 24, 2023 14:37:32 GMT -6
I canβt even with this board. Kirk took an absolute beating today. Ingram, Schlotman and OβNeil were dogshit all day long in PassPro. He made some absolute insane throws all day under duress. It was KOCβs decision not to spike it, you could see Kirk trying to hear him as soon as that play is over.
Iβm not saying it was his best gameβ¦ but he was rushing all day long due to pressure. KOCβs play calling in the Red zone was terrible.
Run Blocking was better today⦠but not when it was needed most.
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Post by 1angryviking on Sept 24, 2023 14:37:41 GMT -6
True that you would think they just spike it. But if KOC is calling a play. I thought weβd spike it. You all thought it but itβs somewhere between Kirk & KOC. We were given a golden chance and blew it Top QBβs are able to βad-libβ by scrambling, calling audibles or stopping the clockβ¦ Kirk has never been able to do that.
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Post by BigRussian on Sept 24, 2023 14:37:44 GMT -6
The person getting paid the most cash should be the biggest asset Or everybody on the team does their job...... .....think i read that somewhere about football In terms of CASH thank God we have the highest paid TE in the history of the NFL Players like that make plays that other TE's dont
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Post by cougar00 on Sept 24, 2023 14:38:35 GMT -6
Hock had two big blunders today. 1st down catch and allowed the defender to take the ball away. 1st and goal, he misses the catch right in his hands and allows the other team to intercept the pass and lose the game.... Clock management is a freaking cop out for so many, yet the reality is that the Vikings still would have had a least 10 seconds left. That's plenty of time to run two plays. I'm not sure why you need more time than that. What's wrong with having 25 seconds and 3 plays to score? It just makes sense to spike the ball in that situation.
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