what happed to the Trey Lance thread from yesterday?
Apr 21, 2023 12:37:15 GMT -6
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Post by redbird87 on Apr 21, 2023 12:37:15 GMT -6
Apr 21, 2023 11:25:37 GMT -6 @kapnbly said:
I've been trying to talk about this for the last week or so, but I think there is some real life to this rumour. I know everyone on this board is looking at it from the context of the Vikings, but what I've been arguing is this makes almost more sense for the 49s than the Vikings. "IF" the Vikings have determined they do not want to extend Kirk then this is probably "THE" best outcome and a WIN WIN for both teams. The only thing keeping the 49s from dominating the league the past few years has been QB play because they can't keep anyone healthy! Purdy may not play a snap in 23, Darnald isn't going to get the job done and Lance is a wildcard...I don't think the 49's really know what they do or don't have there. If they play him and he gets hurt they are doomed, if they play him and he stinks they are doomed AND they won't get much if anything for him in trade with a higher price tag in year 4. Trading for Kirk makes all the sense in the world if you are the 49's. You have Kirk for 1 year, he knows your offense, historically is extremely durable, he's accurate an efficient and would immediately elevate the 49's into the best team in the NFC if not the NFL. If it doesn't pan out, you let him walk and Purdy comes back in 24!
For the Vikings, they get a one year trial on a young QB without having to give up high draft capital to get him. In fact, I think the Vikings may actually get some draft capital or another player back in return because there are a lot of ?'s surrounding his abilities to play and stay healthy. For the Vikings they get a QB that at a minimum has some familiarity with what it's like to be a pro, and if it pans out you get your future franchise QB who is only 23 and you didn't have to give up any pics to get him. You essentially got him for the cost of a player you intended to let walk without any compensation.
This particular draft class isn't jumping off the page with sure fire talents, so if you are the Vikings ... why not explore an option that allows you to take a swing at a QB that has as much upside as every other QB in this class while keeping all of your draft pics. And for 49's, if your window is closing...why not take a shot at high quality veteran that solidifies the one position that has held you back, while knowing that you aren't tied into a high contract long term and still have a young QB in Purdy you have confidence in who can take back over in 24.
It's rare that a situation fits this well for both teams. SF would have to create some cap space....but that is doable and the Vikings could even eat some cap if they needed to make the deal workable. Only downside to the Vikings is you'd be making your road to the SB harder for 1 year.
I'd still prefer to extend Cousins....I think he's playing the best ball of his career, I think the Hurts deal should indicate his willingness to extend under 40M is a bargain and he appears to have a lot of gas left in the tank. I'm not opposed to moving on....but if we are.....taking a chance on Lance with draft cost to try sure does seem to make more sense than using multiple picks of draft capital on a guy that has a 90% chance of failing when you have a ton of needs elsewhere on Defense!
I see no value in trading for Lance without moving Kirk somewhere. While I agreed above the goal is to be competitive, the reality is it would be better to have that transition year now vs. 24. A) The Vikings rebuild should be closer to complete in 24 vs. 23 so if you were going to have growing pains, you'd prefer to have them now while the roster is not as strong. B) Lance needs playing time and another year watching isn't going to help his progression, not to mention having him sit behind Kirk burns up another year of his rookie deal that we get no benefit from. C) If you trade for Lance, I think you have to see what he is so you know if you want to pick up the 5th year option or go back to the draft. I'm not sure you learn much having him standing on the sidelines.
Again, my hope is that we extend Cousins 2-3 years and draft a QB in 24. But if the plan is to let him walk while using a high pick in this draft on a QB or trading Kirk for Lance.....I'd pick the latter and keep the draft capital.