mjollnir
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Post by mjollnir on Jun 10, 2022 7:50:01 GMT -6
LOL they were 8-9 and you keep inferring they were worse then Steckel's 3-13 team that was the worst Viking team of my lifetime. The reason last years team was disappointing is because they should have been a 10 win team. If they were as bad as you say they massively overachieved. Of COURSE they massively overachieved, and that entire overachievement was accomplished by the skill of Kirk Cousins. The Viking defense was the worst in HISTORY, for God's sake. Any other team, led by 3/4 of the rest of NFL QBs would have finished no better than 2-15 and very possibly an astounding 0-17. They sucked exactly that badly. I'm not exaggerating for effect, I'm stating an honest opinion based on the demonstrated deficiencies of the team such as historically bad D, 23rd ranked Oline, archaic offensive scheme, and an HC with a mindlessly fanatical obsession to a run run pass punt philosophy. IMO Cousins carried the Vikings on his back most of the season until his coaches and his D knocked them off. I'm not "inferring" last year's debacle was worse than Steckle's. I'm flat out saying it. You can thank Kirk Cousins for more wins than Steckle's team, but that doesn't change the overall comparison. Hyperbole much.... I suggest a cold one and fat one and go sit in a comfy chair for a while .... or least until you come down from whatever it is that hyped you up. |
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Post by 2012mom on Jun 10, 2022 8:18:49 GMT -6
LOL they were 8-9 and you keep inferring they were worse then Steckel's 3-13 team that was the worst Viking team of my lifetime. The reason last years team was disappointing is because they should have been a 10 win team. If they were as bad as you say they massively overachieved. Of COURSE they massively overachieved, and that entire overachievement was accomplished by the skill of Kirk Cousins. The Viking defense was the worst in HISTORY, for God's sake. Any other team, led by 3/4 of the rest of NFL QBs would have finished no better than 2-15 and very possibly an astounding 0-17. They sucked exactly that badly. I'm not exaggerating for effect, I'm stating an honest opinion based on the demonstrated deficiencies of the team such as historically bad D, 23rd ranked Oline,Β archaic offensive scheme, and an HC with a mindlessly fanatical obsession to a run run pass punt philosophy. IMO Cousins carried the Vikings on his back most of the season until his coaches and his D knocked them off. I'm not "inferring" last year's debacle was worse than Steckle's. I'm flat out saying it. You can thank Kirk Cousins for more wins than Steckle's team, but that doesn't change the overall comparison.Β This is revisionist history BS. Going into last season, the Vikings were expected to most likely make the playoffs, as several key players were returning from injuries on defense (Hunter, Kendricks, Barr). www.sportsgamblingpodcast.com/2021/08/21/minnesota-vikings-predictions-for-2021/#amp_tf=From%20%251%24s&aoh=16548693569953&referrer=https%3A%2F%2Fwww.google.com&share=https%3A%2F%2Fwww.sportsgamblingpodcast.com%2F2021%2F08%2F21%2Fminnesota-vikings-predictions-for-2021%2FSome homers even thought the Vikings had a chance to win the division, and predicted 11 to 13 wins. thevikingage.com/2021/09/07/2021-record-prediction-minnesota-vikings/5/www.dailynorseman.com/2021/9/5/22649535/vikings-2021-22-season-forecastStill, even national media thought they would win 9 games: www.cbssports.com/nfl/news/minnesota-vikings-2021-schedule-predicting-every-game-opponent-win-totals-record-projection/And SI said this last August about the Viking defense, on the way to predicting a 10-7 record: "On paper, this could be a top-five defense with Zimmer calling the shots." www.si.com/nfl/vikings/news/minnesota-vikings-2021-season-preview-record-prediction-cousins-zimmerTo be fair, SI said the Vikings could go anywhere from 7-10 to 13-4, and they picked 10-7 as the middle of their range. The point is that NOBODY was picking the Vikings to have an historically bad defense, or to be one of the worst teams in the NFL. A 7 win season was the WORST that the team was expected to do. Yes, Kirk kept things from being even worse, and yes, he played his best season ever, but no, the he did not help the team "overachieve," by any stretch of the imagination. |
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Post by 1angryviking on Jun 10, 2022 8:54:25 GMT -6
LOL they were 8-9 and you keep inferring they were worse then Steckel's 3-13 team that was the worst Viking team of my lifetime. The reason last years team was disappointing is because they should have been a 10 win team. If they were as bad as you say they massively overachieved. Of COURSE they massively overachieved, and that entire overachievement was accomplished by the skill of Kirk Cousins. The Viking defense was the worst in HISTORY, for God's sake. Any other team, led by 3/4 of the rest of NFL QBs would have finished no better than 2-15 and very possibly an astounding 0-17. They sucked exactly that badly. I'm not exaggerating for effect, I'm stating an honest opinion based on the demonstrated deficiencies of the team such as historically bad D, 23rd ranked Oline, archaic offensive scheme, and an HC with a mindlessly fanatical obsession to a run run pass punt philosophy. IMO Cousins carried the Vikings on his back most of the season until his coaches and his D knocked them off. I'm not "inferring" last year's debacle was worse than Steckle's. I'm flat out saying it. You can thank Kirk Cousins for more wins than Steckle's team, but that doesn't change the overall comparison. Thanks⦠I needed that laugh |
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Post by skolvike on Jun 10, 2022 10:26:52 GMT -6
Of COURSE they massively overachieved, and that entire overachievement was accomplished by the skill of Kirk Cousins. The Viking defense was the worst in HISTORY, for God's sake. Any other team, led by 3/4 of the rest of NFL QBs would have finished no better than 2-15 and very possibly an astounding 0-17. They sucked exactly that badly. I'm not exaggerating for effect, I'm stating an honest opinion based on the demonstrated deficiencies of the team such as historically bad D, 23rd ranked Oline, archaic offensive scheme, and an HC with a mindlessly fanatical obsession to a run run pass punt philosophy. IMO Cousins carried the Vikings on his back most of the season until his coaches and his D knocked them off. I'm not "inferring" last year's debacle was worse than Steckle's. I'm flat out saying it. You can thank Kirk Cousins for more wins than Steckle's team, but that doesn't change the overall comparison. Thanks⦠I needed that laugh MY bad, I forgot it's pure Viking fan requirement to hate your QB. The last one Viking fans liked was Tarkenton, 40 years ago. You're right, of course. I forgot the Viking fan mantra: "Kirk sucks, he'll never get us to the SB, the rest of the team doesn't matter, it's always Kirk's fault, all he does is collect stats, Mr. checkdown..." Let's sign (nope)! Anyone will be better than Cousins!" Did I miss any? |
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Post by 1angryviking on Jun 10, 2022 11:13:13 GMT -6
Thanks⦠I needed that laugh MY bad, I forgot it's pure Viking fan requirement to hate your QB. The last one Viking fans liked was Tarkenton, 40 years ago. You're right, of course. I forgot the Viking fan mantra: "Kirk sucks, he'll never get us to the SB, the rest of the team doesn't matter, it's always Kirk's fault, all he does is collect stats, Mr. checkdown..." Let's sign (nope)! Anyone will be better than Cousins!" Did I miss any? Cousins may be the best multi-year starter in the past 40 years... but don't fool yourself into thinking that the first girl you kissed in 40 years is the prettiest girl on the planet. He is not a top 10 QB. |
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Post by skolvike on Jun 17, 2022 16:16:21 GMT -6
MY bad, I forgot it's pure Viking fan requirement to hate your QB. The last one Viking fans liked was Tarkenton, 40 years ago. You're right, of course. I forgot the Viking fan mantra: "Kirk sucks, he'll never get us to the SB, the rest of the team doesn't matter, it's always Kirk's fault, all he does is collect stats, Mr. checkdown..." Let's sign (nope)! Anyone will be better than Cousins!" Did I miss any? Cousins may be the best multi-year starter in the past 40 years... but don't fool yourself into thinking that the first girl you kissed in 40 years is the prettiest girl on the planet. He is not a top 10 QB. Wasn't the first girl I kissed, but the first one I kissed when I got home from Vietnam I remember the most. I suppose I should since we've been married 51 years now, and yes, she was the prettiest girl on the planet to me then -- and now. And I get the only vote. |
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