Vikeroo
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Post by Vikeroo on Sept 10, 2023 14:27:30 GMT -6
The loss is on the O in this game IMHO. I think the defense played ok, but got gassed in the 2nd half. Still our D gives up 20 we should win. Team should have had 20 on the board in the first half. O gave up the first 3 points. Special Teams also helped giving Tampa an extra 4 points. The offense failed and set the tone.
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Post by burntpackerdbs84 on Sept 10, 2023 14:27:51 GMT -6
Well, what does everybody expect, our defensive lines and interior offensive have sucked for years, and captain checkdown wil not have the comebacks this year, add 2 sorry drafts and this team is totally lost O-line is bad. But with a good line Kirk would be fine, just like other quarterbacks.
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Post by burntpackerdbs84 on Sept 10, 2023 14:29:05 GMT -6
The loss is on the O in this game IMHO. I think the defense played ok, but got gassed in the 2nd half. Still our D gives up 20 we should win. Team should have had 20 on the board in the first half. O gave up the first 3 points. Special Teams also helped giving Tampa an extra 4 points. The offense failed and set the tone. Flores couldn't figure it out in the 2nd half.
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Post by purpletrouble on Sept 10, 2023 14:32:46 GMT -6
When KOC and Kwesi were hired, I figured I would give them 3 years to figure things out, before calling for their heads. I might have to change my mindπ€£
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Post by cerberus54 on Sept 10, 2023 14:37:44 GMT -6
Next is week 2 against the Eagles in prime time. What could possibly go wrong? Betting huge on Philly and I look forward to the easy money. Its about time I get my money back for all of the tickets, hotels and expenses I have spent in MN.
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Post by Vikeroo on Sept 10, 2023 14:45:49 GMT -6
The loss is on the O in this game IMHO. I think the defense played ok, but got gassed in the 2nd half. Still our D gives up 20 we should win. Team should have had 20 on the board in the first half. O gave up the first 3 points. Special Teams also helped giving Tampa an extra 4 points. The offense failed and set the tone. Flores couldn't figure it out in the 2nd half. Once again how do you blame the defense for this loss?
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Post by gopherhockey on Sept 10, 2023 14:48:03 GMT -6
Flores couldn't figure it out in the 2nd half. Once again how do you blame the defense for this loss? They could have made a critical stop on that last drive...that's acceptable.
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Post by Deleted on Sept 10, 2023 14:49:22 GMT -6
The loss is on the O in this game IMHO. I think the defense played ok, but got gassed in the 2nd half. Still our D gives up 20 we should win. Team should have had 20 on the board in the first half. O gave up the first 3 points. Special Teams also helped giving Tampa an extra 4 points. The offense failed and set the tone. Big mistakes and/or missed opportunities at crucial points in the game, but you MUST win in this opener at home hosting TB. This was an egg and if they don't get things fixed quickly it is going to be a long and miserable season.
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Post by vikes79 on Sept 10, 2023 14:50:38 GMT -6
Lol what a bunch of fair weather sallies.
No preseason snaps, and a new Defense.
It was 50/50 chance at best. Stupid errors cost the game
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Post by vikingslore on Sept 10, 2023 14:55:09 GMT -6
Can we take TE screens out of the play book? They didn't work last year and worse this year. We threw more screens in this game than probably 1/2 of the games last year with the same result.
That's on KOC. He came up with the game plan to run screens against the strength of TB defense (their LB's), the OC installs the game plan and calls the plays (his fault as well). Everyone knows check down Kirko won't audible at the LOS.
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Post by vr46 on Sept 10, 2023 14:55:15 GMT -6
Lol what a bunch of fair weather sallies. No preseason snaps, and a new Defense. It was 50/50 chance at best. Stupid errors cost the game You're saying it's the coach's fault then? Facing Tampa with Baker Mayfield at home should never be 50-50 at best.
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Post by mg415 on Sept 10, 2023 14:55:19 GMT -6
Next is week 2 against the Eagles in prime time. What could possibly go wrong? Pretty hard to win the next one β¦. It would be amazing upset if we winβ¦. At least it wonβt be a one score lossπ
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Post by taz24 on Sept 10, 2023 14:58:41 GMT -6
Bad loss. Kirk played poorly. team left a bunch of points on the board. defense did not step up. running game was non existant.
not to hard to assign blame for this one. all phases contributed.
one of the more concerning loses we have had for awhile.
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Post by wolfpack87 on Sept 10, 2023 15:02:33 GMT -6
This one was only embarrassing. Thursday night will be embarrassing AND a total outclassing.
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Post by vikingslore on Sept 10, 2023 15:02:44 GMT -6
Check down Charlie was too scared to throw the ball You don't throw for 300+ by checking down YAC by JJ and that blown coverage by the TB defense on Addison's TD makes the total passing yd. misleading.
With the game on the line (last 2 series) just like against the Giants in the playoffs, Kirko's butt cheeks tightened even more than usual, made bad throws and decisions like continuing to throw short of the sticks when it hadn't been working the entire game.
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