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Post by PrΰΆ§udhΰΆ§rn on Apr 29, 2023 12:01:26 GMT -6
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Post by wiscovike on Apr 29, 2023 12:02:48 GMT -6
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Post by mgb8 on Apr 29, 2023 12:07:38 GMT -6
Sportsline likes him. Seems like a talented developmental type, from the reports.
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Post by wiscovike on Apr 29, 2023 12:08:56 GMT -6
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Post by wiscovike on Apr 29, 2023 12:09:58 GMT -6
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Post by Deleted on Apr 29, 2023 12:13:22 GMT -6
9. Jaquelin Roy, LSU
6β3β, 305 pounds; JR
A top-50 overall recruit in 2020, Roy immediately saw action as a rotational player on the LSU D-line and was a full-time starter by year two. Over his first 18 career games, he recorded ten tackles for loss, 3.5 sacks and two fumble recoveries (plus one forced). This past season he reached a career-best 49 total tackles, with 3.5 of those for loss, but one half a sack.
+ Pretty freakish natural strength, to where Iβve seen him just throw 320-pound guards off him after the play was over a couple of times
+ Offers a trunky lower half and can control his space in the run game
+ When dealing with down-blocks, he digs that opposite foot into the turf and drops the near one, in order to absorb force
+ However, heβs really at his best as a penetrating one-technique, where he can take away the front-side and force premature cutbacks
+ Routinely squeezes blockers into the action to plug up gaps/lanes and can push guys off himself late, digging underneath one shoulder-pad
+ Also has some pretty impressive lateral agility to work down the line against zone-blocking and can then fall back into the opposite gap as the back cuts it upfield or rip and flatten as the ball goes wide
+ Displays the contact balance to stay upright as he takes bumps from the side and not get off his landmarks
+ Continues to occupy two bodies on combo-blocks and can do so whilst staying square, rather than having to attack one man
+ Great quickness as an interior rusher, with a forceful rip move to drive through one shoulder of pass-protectors
+ You see him really whack the upper body of blockers sideways when he connects that initial club with their elbow and has room to become more dangerous as he learns how to follow that properly with the opposite arm
+ Uses one-handed stabs and long-arms to test the balance of interior linemen
+ When he gets guards to commit to turning towards him shooting up the B-gap, he can crash through the inside shoulder or swim that way effectively
+ Can power through one shoulder of the center and flash to the quarterback early, as well as get there late with the arm-over, if he sees a path for himself
+ Had a 81.2 overall PFF grade, with a 89.6 in the pass-rush department in 2021, and was close to those on a higher snap count this past season
+ Regularly saw three or four hands on passing downs, forcing him to switch intro control rushes, where he tracks the quarterbackβs movement pretty well and is able to press off blockers consistently as he sees that guy try to take off
+ You see him close ground in a hurry for a guy his size as heβs slipping the blocker and chases after QBs pulling the ball on bootlegs
β Not a real βplay-makerβ, in terms of beating blockers by countering their steps or disengaging in time to create negative plays β testing in the bottom 11th percentile for both the agility drills is part in that
β Still has to find a better balance dealing with zone-blockers, where heβs sometimes too hell-bent on crossing their face and creates cutback lanes that way, while other times he could easily mirror and keep leverage to the play-side gap on those
β Way too many wasted pass-rush reps, lacking a defined plan or reliable counters if the initial approach doesnβt work
β There are several snaps, where heβs basically just hand-fighting with the center on the spot and doesnβt stress them laterally
β Has to do a better job of pro-actively countering the hands of blockers sliding his way and as they re-fit, he has to continue to do combat and take back control
Physically thereβs not much to find issues with looking at Roy. He carries 305-315 pounds well, with a plus get-off for that size, the ability to own his space against solo-blocks and some impressive moments of getting up the field in passing situations. Unfortunately he hasnβt quite found that knack for how and when to disengage from blocks in order to make many plays in the run game, while his approach rushing the passer leaves things to be desired. To me he can become the best version of himself shaded to the edge of the center in an even front, where his ability to win the A-gap and force cutbacks with penetration or avoid being scooped/reached on the backside can really shine. His value on longer downs will depend on how well he takes teaching and is able to dictate terms with his hands and power. Slightly inside the top-100 picks seems like appropriate value for me.
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Post by ponifan on Apr 29, 2023 12:34:15 GMT -6
Pretty good against the run. That will help.
Even if he just becomes a rotational DT, that's pretty good for a pick this low in the draft.
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Post by RF54 on Apr 29, 2023 12:41:37 GMT -6
what would you rather have,m someone who stands out on a bad team or one of a bunch of guys on a great team?
Roy, 1st Team All SEC in '22, 53 tackles, 4.5 TFL, 116 tackles, 14.5 TFL, 4 sacks in LSU career. NFL comp-Dalvin Tomlinson
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Post by bosshogg on Apr 29, 2023 12:50:51 GMT -6
Looks good in purple and gold!
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Post by BigRussian on Apr 29, 2023 12:51:50 GMT -6
what would you rather have,m someone who stands out on a bad team or one of a bunch of guys on a great team? Roy, 1st Team All SEC in '22, 53 tackles, 4.5 TFL, 116 tackles, 14.5 TFL, 4 sacks in LSU career. NFL comp-Dalvin Tomlinson And to your point the LSU DC, now Minn coach, must of had intel/input on the last 2 picks
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Post by redbird87 on Apr 29, 2023 13:12:29 GMT -6
I rarely get excited beyond the 4th Rd. 5th, 6th and 7th rounders are simply a crap shoot. No GM really has much idea what they are getting here. We already had 8 DTβs in the 300-310 range. Not sure we needed another mediocre DT. We needed a big Stud DT in the 320-335 range that you canβt move. Tongs is that size but heβs not that player.
I know we got at least 1 good player in this draft so thatβs good. Im disappointed, I disagree with everything we didβ¦ but all I can do is hope Kwesi is the genius you all think he is. I watched teams like the Chiefs and Eagles over the last few years trade up to draft in rounds 3-4 while we trade back for more 6th and 7thβs. Iβve wTched teams like Chiefs and Eagles consistently get ammunition from players they were prepared to move on from so they have a lot of ammunition. But our GM canβt unload anyone for comp.
We literally may have had the worst draft in our Division. We are a worse teams today than we were a year ago at this time. Detroit got better, Chicago got better and GB Too early to tell what they have in Love. Only good thing is it wonβt cost us as much to move up for a QB in 24.
Kwesi is getting schooled! I think heβs been above average in FA but below average everywhere else.
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Post by lunas on Apr 29, 2023 13:23:27 GMT -6
This guy has potential to get a lot better.
He has power and can be a legitimate run stuffer at the NFL level.
Because itβs a position of need, outside of Addison, he may see the field more than any player that we have drafted.
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Post by mossdaddy on Apr 29, 2023 13:27:19 GMT -6
I rarely get excited beyond the 4th Rd. 5th, 6th and 7th rounders are simply a crap shoot. No GM really has much idea what they are getting here. We already had 8 DTβs in the 300-310 range. Not sure we needed another mediocre DT. We needed a big Stud DT in the 320-335 range that you canβt move. Tongs is that size but heβs not that player. I know we got at least 1 good player in this draft so thatβs good. Im disappointed, I disagree with everything we didβ¦ but all I can do is hope Kwesi is the genius you all think he is. I watched teams like the Chiefs and Eagles over the last few years trade up to draft in rounds 3-4 while we trade back for more 6th and 7thβs. Iβve wTched teams like Chiefs and Eagles consistently get ammunition from players they were prepared to move on from so they have a lot of ammunition. But our GM canβt unload anyone for comp. We literally may have had the worst draft in our Division. We are a worse teams today than we were a year ago at this time. Detroit got better, Chicago got better and GB Too early to tell what they have in Love. Only good thing is it wonβt cost us as much to move up for a QB in 24. Kwesi is getting schooled! I think heβs been above average in FA but below average everywhere else. Shocking you disagree with everything lolβ¦ youβre always so upbeat with everything you post smh
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Post by taz24 on Apr 29, 2023 13:44:09 GMT -6
IMO the Vikings best pick. Large man with a huge motor. I really like this pick.
I have been hoping to see them add a good DT and this guy has tools and upside. Just a terrific pick by Kwesi.
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Post by Deleted on Apr 29, 2023 15:24:30 GMT -6
Also very much liking this pick at this point in the draft. Seems like the ceiling could be quite high.
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