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Post by Prเถงudhเถงrn on Mar 26, 2023 17:47:00 GMT -6
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Post by tavike on Mar 26, 2023 17:56:41 GMT -6
A trade down for a second and a third is not only most likely.
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Post by JR44 on Mar 26, 2023 18:41:24 GMT -6
I think Hunter is going to get traded, his talents are wasted in a 3-4 and he has always been a streaky performer.
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Post by Vikeroo on Mar 26, 2023 18:52:25 GMT -6
I think Hunter is going to get traded, his talents are wasted in a 3-4 and he has always been a streaky performer. Jarred Allen was streaky and would get the bulk of his sacks in multi sack games. Hunter has always kind of been the opposite of streaky with very few multi sack games. That is a really odd take?
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Post by Vikeroo on Mar 26, 2023 18:56:50 GMT -6
Problem with trading Hunter for this years draft is they have to clear an extra 5M in cap space to trade him before June 1st. Trading down seems like a certainty if they want a 2nd rounder this year.
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Post by JR44 on Mar 26, 2023 18:58:53 GMT -6
I think Hunter is going to get traded, his talents are wasted in a 3-4 and he has always been a streaky performer. Jarred Allen was streaky and would get the bulk of his sacks in multi sack games. Hunter has always kind of been the opposite of streaky with very few multi sack games. That is a really odd take? I think Hunter is much more streaky of a player, it is not just the sacks, but it is having an impact on the game, Hunter is sometimes invisible to the point where you wonder if he is in the game.
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Post by Vikeroo on Mar 26, 2023 19:34:21 GMT -6
Jarred Allen was streaky and would get the bulk of his sacks in multi sack games. Hunter has always kind of been the opposite of streaky with very few multi sack games. That is a really odd take? I think Hunter is much more streaky of a player, it is not just the sacks, but it is having an impact on the game, Hunter is sometimes invisible to the point where you wonder if he is in the game. Was top 10 in pressures, had 10.5 sacks, and was 3rd for EDGE in solo tackles. He had 20 more tackles, 1.5 less sacks, 1 more QB hits. 5 less TFL, and same number of forced fumbles as Jared Allen did in 2012 in an All Pro year for Allen.
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Post by taz24 on Mar 26, 2023 23:08:07 GMT -6
Hunter is a great player that is often under appreciated on this board as posters jerk off to their Kyle Sloter poster.
I guarantee again he is NOT getting traded.
Our best defender. (Not close) Terrific production Great second half in a 3-4
The trade Hunter crowd really needs to focus on how football is played.
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Post by drhoades1 on Mar 26, 2023 23:14:05 GMT -6
Hunter is a great player that is often under appreciated on this board as posters jerk off to their Kyle Sloter poster. I guarantee again he is NOT getting traded. Our best defender. (Not close) Terrific production Great second half in a 3-4 The trade Hunter crowd really needs to focus on how football is played. I concur, I said the same last year when the board proclaimed Hunter would be traded. Here were my words โNo way in hell will they trade Hunter, they are not idiots.โ I didnโt think I would have to say it again but No way in hell will they trade Hunter.
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Post by frantheman10 on Mar 27, 2023 6:49:31 GMT -6
I wouldn't want to trade Hunter as he's our best defensive player and still relatively young but like always it will come down to dollars and cents. Does Hunter want to get paid Bossa or TJ Watt money? If so, then maybe it would be best to move him. KAM has shown a reluctance to give long term contracts with lots of guaranteed money. If the team is building toward a SB push in 2025 with a young QB then maybe getting a 2nd and a few other picks for Hunter is the move.
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Post by mjollnir on Mar 27, 2023 7:25:03 GMT -6
I would guess those that say Hunter is streaky are strictly looking at the Sack Numbers or tackles for loss. Hunter is much more complete then that with setting edges or redirecting runners to help. As far as wasting away in a 3-4.... nah. Just needed to adjust as the 2nd half of the season proved.
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Post by mgb8 on Mar 27, 2023 8:45:43 GMT -6
Not sure that a 2nd is needed, though it would be nice.
my guess is that the Vikes are looking corner in rd 1 (where draft seems pretty solid in terms of late first, early 2nd type prospects) and then some beef on the DL next. There seems to be some depth in the draft at big DT, so maybe snagging an extra 3rd would do the trick?
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Post by legion11 on Mar 27, 2023 9:17:27 GMT -6
Jarred Allen was streaky and would get the bulk of his sacks in multi sack games. Hunter has always kind of been the opposite of streaky with very few multi sack games. That is a really odd take? I think Hunter is much more streaky of a player, it is not just the sacks, but it is having an impact on the game, Hunter is sometimes invisible to the point where you wonder if he is in the game.ย Justin Jefferson had one catch for 15 yards against the Packers in week 17, man that guy was invisible! We should try to trade him for a 6th if we can get it. Hunter put up very good numbers despite adjusting to a new scheme and being asked to rush the passer in a defense that regularly lined up CBs 8-12 yards off the receiver. It was so easy for QBs to take the easy underneath stuff, often it would take an uncontested rush in under 1.5 seconds to get home. And yet he still put up 65 tackles and 10.5 sacks. It makes me wonder what your criteria for a "visible" year would be. Nick Bosa was the 2022 sack leader, yet for 3 straight games he failed to notch a sack - the wildcard round win against the Seahawks, the divisional round win against Dallas, and the NFCC loss against Philadelphia. Man that guy went invisible right when his team needed him the most!! Hunter and Bosa had similar tackle amounts as far as "spikyness" on a week to week basis, both with 1 tackle as their low and 7 as their high, yet Hunter had 14 more total tackles on the season, so almost 1 extra per game on average.
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Post by beo on Mar 27, 2023 10:38:59 GMT -6
I think Hunter is much more streaky of a player, it is not just the sacks, but it is having an impact on the game, Hunter is sometimes invisible to the point where you wonder if he is in the game. Justin Jefferson had one catch for 15 yards against the Packers in week 17, man that guy was invisible! We should try to trade him for a 6th if we can get it. Hunter put up very good numbers despite adjusting to a new scheme and being asked to rush the passer in a defense that regularly lined up CBs 8-12 yards off the receiver. It was so easy for QBs to take the easy underneath stuff, often it would take an uncontested rush in under 1.5 seconds to get home. And yet he still put up 65 tackles and 10.5 sacks. It makes me wonder what your criteria for a "visible" year would be. Nick Bosa was the 2022 sack leader, yet for 3 straight games he failed to notch a sack - the wildcard round win against the Seahawks, the divisional round win against Dallas, and the NFCC loss against Philadelphia. Man that guy went invisible right when his team needed him the most!! Hunter and Bosa had similar tackle amounts as far as "spikyness" on a week to week basis, both with 1 tackle as their low and 7 as their high, yet Hunter had 14 more total tackles on the season, so almost 1 extra per game on average. Devil's advocate: Hunter will be 29 this season... if you are going to trade him this would probably be the time to do it. I thought Hunter came on 2nd half of the season and think he will likely be better this year. But I could see this front office trading him if they could get premium picks for him too. I think they currently have Z, Davenprot & Hunter on the roster to give themselves options.
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Post by tavike on Mar 27, 2023 12:06:00 GMT -6
Problem with trading Hunter for this years draft is they have to clear an extra 5M in cap space to trade him before June 1st. Trading down seems like a certainty if they want a 2nd rounder this year. I think they are keeping the O'neil restructure in their back pocket for any move that would require clearing cap space. Still don't think they are trading Hunter though. I have to think they already have a trade offer for Z. Smith that they will use during the draft. Don't think it will be a second though.
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