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Post by jeffsiemon on Mar 20, 2023 15:24:38 GMT -6
Between the draft and free agency, the Vikings need a WR and 2 more corners.
At somepoint Cook will be traded, maybe after rehab for surgery.
They are not keeping Hunter and Z, one will be traded.
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Post by frantheman10 on Mar 20, 2023 16:18:37 GMT -6
Between the draft and free agency, the Vikings need a WR and 2 more corners. At somepoint Cook will be traded, maybe after rehab for surgery. They are not keeping Hunter and Z, one will be traded. Sounds about right. I think they have a trade agreed on for Cook pending a physical at a future date. This may be why the league is letting them operate above the cap as a Cook trade saves $7.8mm. I don't think they would have brought Mattison back or that he would have wanted to come back if Cook was staying. I think Dalvin ends up in Jax or Miami for a mid round pick. I think Z is also going to be moved but it will probably depend on getting an extension done with Hunter. They don't want to trade or cut Z and increase Hunter's leverage or risk a hold out. If Hunter can be extended then Z gets moved. If not, they may look to trade Hunter and re work Z's contract. So if they can trade both Cook and Z, that saves about $20mm. I would use that to sign Chark and bring back the Duke of Shelly and then go BPA in the draft. |
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Post by jeffsiemon on Mar 20, 2023 16:22:55 GMT -6
Between the draft and free agency, the Vikings need a WR and 2 more corners. At somepoint Cook will be traded, maybe after rehab for surgery. They are not keeping Hunter and Z, one will be traded. Sounds about right. I think they have a trade agreed on for Cook pending a physical at a future date. This may be why the league is letting them operate above the cap as a Cook trade saves $7.8mm. I don't think they would have brought Mattison back or that he would have wanted to come back if Cook was staying. I think Dalvin ends up in Jax or Miami for a mid round pick. I think Z is also going to be moved but it will probably depend on getting an extension done with Hunter. They don't want to trade or cut Z and increase Hunter's leverage or risk a hold out. If Hunter can be extended then Z gets moved. If not, they may look to trade Hunter and re work Z's contract. So if they can trade both Cook and Z, that saves about $20mm. I would use that to sign Chark and bring back the Duke of Shelly and then go BPA in the draft. The league doesnβt let anyone operate above the cap. Many of the agreements that were leaked by agents have yet to become official. |
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Post by tavike on Mar 20, 2023 16:26:45 GMT -6
Between the draft and free agency, the Vikings need a WR and 2 more corners. At somepoint Cook will be traded, maybe after rehab for surgery. They are not keeping Hunter and Z, one will be traded. Sounds about right. I think they have a trade agreed on for Cook pending a physical at a future date. This may be why the league is letting them operate above the cap as a Cook trade saves $7.8mm. I don't think they would have brought Mattison back or that he would have wanted to come back if Cook was staying. I think Dalvin ends up in Jax or Miami for a mid round pick. I think Z is also going to be moved but it will probably depend on getting an extension done with Hunter. They don't want to trade or cut Z and increase Hunter's leverage or risk a hold out. If Hunter can be extended then Z gets moved. If not, they may look to trade Hunter and re work Z's contract. So if they can trade both Cook and Z, that saves about $20mm. I would use that to sign Chark and bring back the Duke of Shelly and then go BPA in the draft. OTC does not have the H. Smith contract in there yet. They still have the old numbers. Once that is in, they should be under. |
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Post by redbird87 on Mar 20, 2023 17:32:57 GMT -6
Somewhere along the line we are going to need a full sized LB and NT or every team we face is going to run the ball right down our Throat! You can't stop the run with an undersized NT and a Small LB. Tonga is big, but he isn't a run stuffer.
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Post by Vikeroo on Mar 20, 2023 18:15:10 GMT -6
Sounds about right. I think they have a trade agreed on for Cook pending a physical at a future date. This may be why the league is letting them operate above the cap as a Cook trade saves $7.8mm. I don't think they would have brought Mattison back or that he would have wanted to come back if Cook was staying. I think Dalvin ends up in Jax or Miami for a mid round pick. I think Z is also going to be moved but it will probably depend on getting an extension done with Hunter. They don't want to trade or cut Z and increase Hunter's leverage or risk a hold out. If Hunter can be extended then Z gets moved. If not, they may look to trade Hunter and re work Z's contract. So if they can trade both Cook and Z, that saves about $20mm. I would use that to sign Chark and bring back the Duke of Shelly and then go BPA in the draft. OTC does not have the H. Smith contract in there yet. They still have the old numbers. Once that is in, they should be under. Hicks restructure not shown yet either. |
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Post by nemplsvikingsfan on Mar 20, 2023 18:32:20 GMT -6
OTC does not have the H. Smith contract in there yet.Β They still have the old numbers.Β Once that is in, they should be under. Hicks restructure not shown yet either.Β Jordan Hicks restructure is included. His 2023 cap number went from $6.5M to $5M after taking a $1.5M pay cut. |
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Post by avguy on Mar 21, 2023 0:17:22 GMT -6
Somewhere along the line we are going to need a full sized LB and NT or every team we face is going to run the ball right down our Throat! You can't stop the run with an undersized NT and a Small LB. Tonga is big, but he isn't a run stuffer. What absolutely sucks is the college game has evolved away from the backend part here. Look at this coming draft. The only LB of the top 15 rated above 240lbs is the Iowa kid! I do not like this trend! That's why Vander Esch from Dallas would have been my hope. At NT, there are just a few draft-worthy guys in the in this draft who may fit the "Big Gap" with real stout girth. One only needs to see the NFL has become to turn it back with several teams finally running the ball more than throwing it again and quite a few near a decent 50/50 split. We Vikings have the light Defense setup to combat a pass-heavy team as the KOC offense was in '22 but not even fast enough, overall. If they don't get this side of the ball mixed in better - at least it can't become much worse near the frickin' bottom where it is now. |
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Post by jakester1957 on Mar 21, 2023 5:43:55 GMT -6
We need a NT, 2CB, WR and LB. If we pull this off, we will be playoff contenders with the Lions. Skol.
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Post by β GCBenβ on Mar 21, 2023 7:23:51 GMT -6
I would add extending Hockenson to this list. This would likely have a favorable cap impact this year but more importantly keep him around for several more years.
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Post by redbird87 on Mar 21, 2023 11:27:13 GMT -6
I would add extending Hockenson to this list. This would likely have a favorable cap impact this year but more importantly keep him around for several more years. I agree. But I doubt you are going to make much headway with Hock or JJ in extension talks until the QB situation is resolved. Said this before.....No agent is going to encourage their top echelon receiving clients in their mid 20's to hitch their wagon for the next 3-4 years to an unknown QB. Late 20's....the money and ring come more into play...but mid 20's....it's all about production (and money)...because production sets up even more money! |
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Post by RF54 on Mar 21, 2023 12:30:12 GMT -6
We need a NT, 2CB, WR and LB. If we pull this off, we will be playoff contenders with the Lions. Skol. If you change NT to DT I would agree with your needs |
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Post by Deleted on Mar 22, 2023 4:24:21 GMT -6
Somewhere along the line we are going to need a full sized LB and NT or every team we face is going to run the ball right down our Throat! You can't stop the run with an undersized NT and a Small LB. Tonga is big, but he isn't a run stuffer. Where does that "full sized" NT come from? Are there any available via Free Agency? There do not seem to be any in the draft. I think they are going to stay with Tonga, but pick up at least one ILB. |
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Post by Deleted on Mar 22, 2023 4:27:38 GMT -6
At NT, there are just a few draft-worthy guys in the in this draft who may fit the "Big Gap" with real stout girth. Who? |
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Post by Vikeroo on Mar 22, 2023 8:16:16 GMT -6
Somewhere along the line we are going to need a full sized LB and NT or every team we face is going to run the ball right down our Throat! You can't stop the run with an undersized NT and a Small LB. Tonga is big, but he isn't a run stuffer. Where does that "full sized" NT come from? Are there any available via Free Agency? There do not seem to be any in the draft. I think they are going to stay with Tonga, but pick up at least one ILB. Mazi Smith in the draft is a classic 2 down NT. Little rich at #23, but not sure how far you can drop to get him? |
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