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Post by lunas on Jan 19, 2023 13:38:06 GMT -6
Go look at Cousins contract based on value taken in cap , 2022 he was number 10 in percentage of cap taken.Β 2023 he will be 10.Β Prescott is above him and Goff is below would you want either of them? Like it or not he is good value right now. Nobody above him had 8 come from behind game winning drives or or went 11-1 in 1 score games.Β And only 3 above him are in the playoffs there is not a Herbert, Hurts, Allen, Burrow or Lawrence in this draft that we can get on rookie deals. As to Rodgers the guy is Roethlisberger with less Lombardi's.Β And defacto the most hated QB in Vikings land ever.Β He is a douchebag.Β throughout history it is never been possible to use facts and common sense to overcome hatred. I donβt think most of the anti-Kirk fans hate him. Give his agent credit to get him paid like a QB that can carry a team by himself which he canβt. He takes the fans fury because management bought into him and most of us know that the team cannot be built properly to give him the best chance to lead us to a SB because his contract is too large. I think most of us would prefer to take a chance on a drafted QB with a rookie contract where you MAY have a chance to hit it big because you get better players around him. We all know Kirk and itβs impossible to contruct a team that he needs because of his contact.
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Post by wolfpack87 on Jan 19, 2023 13:40:11 GMT -6
Aaron would suck here with this o-line and is even older than Kirk. No thanks.
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Post by taz24 on Jan 19, 2023 14:31:18 GMT -6
throughout history it is never been possible to use facts and common sense to overcome hatred. I donβt think most of the anti-Kirk fans hate him. Give his agent credit to get him paid like a QB that can carry a team by himself which he canβt. He takes the fans fury because management bought into him and most of us know that the team cannot be built properly to give him the best chance to lead us to a SB because his contract is too large. I think most of us would prefer to take a chance on a drafted QB with a rookie contract where you MAY have a chance to hit it big because you get better players around him. We all know Kirk and itβs impossible to contruct a team that he needs because of his contact. The Vikings did not Overpay Cousins because they thought he could carry a team. They overpaid him because they knew Speilman was unable to identify and sign a capable QB who wasn't 40 on his own. Also Kirk may not need the 'perfect team' to win. He won 13 games with the 31st ranked defense. Johnny U and Tom Brady rolled into one don't win a title with this years defense.
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Post by frantheman10 on Jan 19, 2023 14:44:35 GMT -6
throughout history it is never been possible to use facts and common sense to overcome hatred. I donβt think most of the anti-Kirk fans hate him. Give his agent credit to get him paid like a QB that can carry a team by himself which he canβt. He takes the fans fury because management bought into him and most of us know that the team cannot be built properly to give him the best chance to lead us to a SB because his contract is too large. I think most of us would prefer to take a chance on a drafted QB with a rookie contract where you MAY have a chance to hit it big because you get better players around him. We all know Kirk and itβs impossible to contruct a team that he needs because of his contact. Ok, you want to take a chance on a drafted QB with a rookie contract. I get that approach and it's a home run if you draft the right guy. What's your plan? We have the 23rd pick and no 2nd rder. I saw a mock yesterday that had 5 QBs going in the top 10 picks. Do you like a guy enough to trade into the top 10? There are a lot of QB hungry teams in the top 10 and they will ask for a lot to trade out. Probably talking this year's 1st and 3rd and 2024 1st and 2nd. Maybe more. Is there a guy that you think will be around at 23 who you would draft? Or do we cut a bunch of vets this year, clean out a lot of cap for 2024 and tank 2023 for a top 10 pick next year to get a QB? Getting a good QB on a rookie scale contract is tough unless you suck for a period of time (Bengals, Chargers) or are prepared to trade away two years worth of high picks to get in the top 10. What do you advise?
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Post by drhoades on Jan 19, 2023 15:01:57 GMT -6
I donβt think most of the anti-Kirk fans hate him. Give his agent credit to get him paid like a QB that can carry a team by himself which he canβt. He takes the fans fury because management bought into him and most of us know that the team cannot be built properly to give him the best chance to lead us to a SB because his contract is too large. I think most of us would prefer to take a chance on a drafted QB with a rookie contract where you MAY have a chance to hit it big because you get better players around him. We all know Kirk and itβs impossible to contruct a team that he needs because of his contact. The Vikings did not Overpay Cousins because they thought he could carry a team. They overpaid him because they knew Speilman was unable to identify and sign a capable QB who wasn't 40 on his own. Also Kirk may not need the 'perfect team' to win. He won 13 games with the 31st ranked defense. Johnny U and Tom Brady rolled into one don't win a title with this years defense. exactly, and as has been pointed out many times on this board we did NOT overpay Kirk this year. but as i said, history proves facts and common sense can't win an argument against hatred. its easier to blame the QB than the 31st ranked defense or any of the other factors that lead to 5 losses on the season.
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Post by drhoades on Jan 19, 2023 15:03:19 GMT -6
The Vikings did not Overpay Cousins because they thought he could carry a team. They overpaid him because they knew Speilman was unable to identify and sign a capable QB who wasn't 40 on his own. Also Kirk may not need the 'perfect team' to win. He won 13 games with the 31st ranked defense. Johnny U and Tom Brady rolled into one don't win a title with this years defense. exactly, and as has been pointed out many times on this board we did NOT overpay Kirk this year. but as i said, history proves facts and common sense can't win an argument against hatred. its easier to blame the QB than the 31st ranked defense or any of the other factors that lead to 5 losses on the season. Lets do a simple exercise on the board. How long do we all think the Raiders will be looking for a QB and drafting busts at the position? my guess- the next decade.
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Post by mjollnir on Jan 19, 2023 16:36:48 GMT -6
throughout history it is never been possible to use facts and common sense to overcome hatred. I donβt think most of the anti-Kirk fans hate him. Give his agent credit to get him paid like a QB that can carry a team by himself which he canβt. He takes the fans fury because management bought into him and most of us know that the team cannot be built properly to give him the best chance to lead us to a SB because his contract is too large. I think most of us would prefer to take a chance on a drafted QB with a rookie contract where you MAY have a chance to hit it big because you get better players around him. We all know Kirk and itβs impossible to contruct a team that he needs because of his contact. How about we turn into the Browns, Cardinals, Bears, Broncos, Jets, Dolphins or Raiders. Even the Bills and Jags spent a lot of capital on QB's before finally getting their guys.
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