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Post by Deleted on Jan 1, 2023 18:24:46 GMT -6
1 ED and his d
2 Cook, to much $ resign Maddy to low contract.
3. Theilen needs to retire to much$ and hell be slower next Year.
4 All Oline Backups
5 Chandon Sullivan.
more to follow.
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Post by burntpackerdbs84 on Jan 1, 2023 18:25:33 GMT -6
1 ED and his d 2 Cook, to much $ resign Maddy to low contract. 3. TheilenΒ needs to retire to much$ and hell be slower next Year. Β 4 All Oline Backups 5 Chandon Sullivan. more to follow. Coach if he keeps running up the middle too.
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Post by flvike on Jan 1, 2023 18:31:16 GMT -6
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Post by BigRussian on Jan 1, 2023 19:07:16 GMT -6
THAT really made me laugh that was good i needed that thanks
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Post by drhoades1 on Jan 1, 2023 19:11:19 GMT -6
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Post by frantheman10 on Jan 1, 2023 19:15:55 GMT -6
54, 19, 58, 39, 72. Maybe 22 if he doesnβt take a big pay cut. 7 is probably not coming back either. 99 will ask for a trade if ED isnβt fired. Team is going to look a lot different in 2023. KOC got a lot out of Zimm and Ricks guys but he will clean house.
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Post by franklin99 on Jan 1, 2023 19:28:56 GMT -6
Too much $$$ on big veteran contracts (Speilman) has resulted in very poor depth. Now as injuries occur, the lack-of-depth gets magnified. So they'll become much more judicious with the veterans for 2023.
And hopefully they convince "someone" to quit trading down ("take the best player you can when they're damn cheap").
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Post by bjdjfr on Jan 1, 2023 19:32:57 GMT -6
Joseph?
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Post by wolfpack87 on Jan 1, 2023 19:34:48 GMT -6
Based on salary - Kendricks for sure. No way in hell is he worth $11.4 million when his dead cap number will be $1.9 million - Hicks isn't remotely worth $6.5 million to be a total liability in pass coverage. Also has another low dead cap number at $1.5 million - Chris Reed... lol. Cap hit of $2.5 million, dead cap number of $250K. Easiest cut on the roster based on what we saw today. - Jalen Reagor will not have his 5th year option picked up so probably a moot point with him. - Greg Joseph. Not worth $2.4 million - Ross Blacklock, zero dead cap and not worth $1.6 million when he could easily be replaced at whatever the hell league minimum is or a late round rookie.
Based on performance: - Sullivan is not good. - Udoh is not good, move on from that project. Sucks at guard, sucks at tackle - Irv Smith. Can't stay healthy, can't imagine they re-sign him - Kris Boyd. LOL, not good - Schlottmann. Hate he got hurt today, but he's not the answer at center. Hasnt even been a good backup.
Smith and Thielen are gonna be the two toughest ones. They both carry a lot of dead cap money (13.5 million for Thielen, $11.7 million) and no clear replacements for either on the roster. Cutting Thielen would save $6.4 million, cutting Smith would save roughly $7.5 million after factoring in the dead cap space. Can both be replaced for that money? Im not sure. Osborne hasn't shown me enough to think he can replace Thielen. I don't think this team can afford to draft another wide receiver high with so many defensive holes. Cine, Bynum and Metellus have shown basically nothing on defense. Do you cut the one half decent safety on the roster? Hard to imagine they do that, not sure there's an FA safety that can replace Smith that will be any cheaper when you factor in the dead cap number.
I don't think Cook is going anywhere, despite what the folks that don't like him think.
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Post by franklin99 on Jan 1, 2023 19:44:19 GMT -6
Based on salary - Kendricks for sure. No way in hell is he worth $11.4 million when his dead cap number will be $1.9 million - Hicks isn't remotely worth $6.5 million to be a total liability in pass coverage. Also has another low dead cap number at $1.5 million - Chris Reed... lol. Cap hit of $2.5 million, dead cap number of $250K. Easiest cut on the roster based on what we saw today. - Jalen Reagor will not have his 5th year option picked up so probably a moot point with him. - Greg Joseph. Not worth $2.4 million - Ross Blacklock, zero dead cap and not worth $1.6 million when he could easily be replaced at whatever the hell league minimum is or a late round rookie. Based on performance: - Sullivan is not good. - Udoh is not good, move on from that project. Sucks at guard, sucks at tackle - Irv Smith. Can't stay healthy, can't imagine they re-sign him - Kris Boyd. LOL, not good - Schlottmann. Hate he got hurt today, but he's not the answer at center. Hasnt even been a good backup. Smith and Thielen are gonna be the two toughest ones. They both carry a lot of dead cap money (13.5 million for Thielen, $11.7 million) and no clear replacements for either on the roster. Cutting Thielen would save $6.4 million, cutting Smith would save roughly $7.5 million after factoring in the dead cap space. Can both be replaced for that money? Im not sure. Osborne hasn't shown me enough to think he can replace Thielen. I don't think this team can afford to draft another wide receiver high with so many defensive holes. Cine, Bynum and Metellus have shown basically nothing on defense. Do you cut the one half decent safety on the roster? Hard to imagine they do that, not sure there's an FA safety that can replace Smith that will be any cheaper when you factor in the dead cap number. I don't think Cook is going anywhere, despite what the folks that don't like him think. I agree with most of that. The exception being Cook. His production is replaceable for lots less $$.
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Post by wolfpack87 on Jan 1, 2023 19:52:58 GMT -6
Based on salary - Kendricks for sure. No way in hell is he worth $11.4 million when his dead cap number will be $1.9 million - Hicks isn't remotely worth $6.5 million to be a total liability in pass coverage. Also has another low dead cap number at $1.5 million - Chris Reed... lol. Cap hit of $2.5 million, dead cap number of $250K. Easiest cut on the roster based on what we saw today. - Jalen Reagor will not have his 5th year option picked up so probably a moot point with him. - Greg Joseph. Not worth $2.4 million - Ross Blacklock, zero dead cap and not worth $1.6 million when he could easily be replaced at whatever the hell league minimum is or a late round rookie. Based on performance: - Sullivan is not good. - Udoh is not good, move on from that project. Sucks at guard, sucks at tackle - Irv Smith. Can't stay healthy, can't imagine they re-sign him - Kris Boyd. LOL, not good - Schlottmann. Hate he got hurt today, but he's not the answer at center. Hasnt even been a good backup. Smith and Thielen are gonna be the two toughest ones. They both carry a lot of dead cap money (13.5 million for Thielen, $11.7 million) and no clear replacements for either on the roster. Cutting Thielen would save $6.4 million, cutting Smith would save roughly $7.5 million after factoring in the dead cap space. Can both be replaced for that money? Im not sure. Osborne hasn't shown me enough to think he can replace Thielen. I don't think this team can afford to draft another wide receiver high with so many defensive holes. Cine, Bynum and Metellus have shown basically nothing on defense. Do you cut the one half decent safety on the roster? Hard to imagine they do that, not sure there's an FA safety that can replace Smith that will be any cheaper when you factor in the dead cap number. I don't think Cook is going anywhere, despite what the folks that don't like him think. I agree with most of that. The exception being Cook. His production is replaceable for lots less $$. I think he's had a rough year, but it's hard to run the ball with two of the worst guards in the NFL when this team refuses to run off tackle for whatever reason. I think most of us have been begging the coaching staff to run Cook outside more often and they just don't want to do it. Instead, run behind a tackle trying to play guard and whatever the hell exactly it is Ed Ingram does. Think KOC values Cook quite a bit, just don't see the team moving on from him.
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Post by shawn3458 on Jan 1, 2023 20:21:42 GMT -6
Based on salary - Kendricks for sure. No way in hell is he worth $11.4 million when his dead cap number will be $1.9 million - Hicks isn't remotely worth $6.5 million to be a total liability in pass coverage. Also has another low dead cap number at $1.5 million - Chris Reed... lol. Cap hit of $2.5 million, dead cap number of $250K. Easiest cut on the roster based on what we saw today.Β - Jalen Reagor will not have his 5th year option picked up so probably a moot point with him.Β - Greg Joseph. Not worth $2.4 million - Ross Blacklock, zero dead cap and not worth $1.6 million when he could easily be replaced at whatever the hell league minimum is or a late round rookie.Β Β Based on performance: - Sullivan is not good.Β - Udoh is not good, move on from that project. Sucks at guard, sucks at tackle - Irv Smith. Can't stay healthy, can't imagine they re-sign him - Kris Boyd. LOL, not good - Schlottmann. Hate he got hurt today, but he's not the answer at center. Hasnt even been a good backup.Β Smith and Thielen are gonna be the two toughest ones. They both carry a lot of dead cap money (13.5 million for Thielen, $11.7 million) and no clear replacements for either on the roster. Cutting Thielen would save $6.4 million, cutting Smith would save roughly $7.5 million after factoring in the dead cap space. Can both be replaced for that money? Im not sure. Osborne hasn't shown me enough to think he can replace Thielen. I don't think this team can afford to draft another wide receiver high with so many defensive holes. Cine, Bynum and Metellus have shown basically nothing on defense. Do you cut the one half decent safety on the roster? Hard to imagine they do that, not sure there's an FA safety that can replace Smith that will be any cheaper when you factor in the dead cap number.Β I don't think Cook is going anywhere, despite what the folks that don't like him think.Β I agree with most of that.Β The exception being Cook.Β His production is replaceable for lots less $$. Same here. I think Cooks future may be tied to how things fall in the draft. They wonβt be in any big hurry to part with him, but if a RB they really like is available, Cook may be gone.
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Post by taz24 on Jan 1, 2023 22:35:22 GMT -6
Spellie was very poor at overpaying veterans.
Gone and some we needed to compete this year and I thought they performed admirably.
Hicks Kendricks Peterson Blaylock Sullivan
Thielen Irv Cook (if the team likes Chandler and Mattison can spell him)
Keep Harrison around and hope Cine can play.
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Post by taz24 on Jan 1, 2023 22:58:36 GMT -6
If the Team moves on from Donatel and goes to a 4-3 defense they could move Hunter back to End and might move on from Z. Smith.
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Post by cujo2019 on Jan 1, 2023 23:23:54 GMT -6
I would not give up on Z smith.
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